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>H-1B visas had nothing to do with Silicon Valley. Nonsense. I am guessing you have never been silicon valley. 90% or more of tech workers there were born outs

>H-1B visas had nothing to do with Silicon Valley. Nonsense. I am guessing you have never been silicon valley. 90% or more of tech workers there were born outside USA. Edit: it is 70%, which is still very high. https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens...

porpoisely 8y ago
I have and even more, I know people who work in silicon valley. Have you been there? Ignoring the fact that "90% of tech workers there were born outside the USA" is absolutely false, what does that have to do with H-1B visas? It could be true that 90% of tech workers were born outside the USA and none of them could be H-1B visa holders. There are plenty of american tech workers who immigrated to the US as a child and became american citizens. Like sergei brin or jerry yang. They may be born outside the US, but none of them are H-1B visa holders. They were all american citizens. The fact that you are intentionally lying and being sneaky with stats is very worrisome.
darkpuma 8y ago
Well that's just flat out not true (the percentage is high, but not 90%), and you've completely ignored the meat of the criticism above.
- interlocutor 8y ago
  You're right, turns out it is about 70% https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens... What exactly is the meat of the criticism above?
  - porpoisely 8y ago
    I'll say it again. Foreign born != H-1B visa. Like I said, most of the foreign born workers in silicon valley are people who immigrated to the US as children. You used to lie about Jerry Yang and Sergei Brin being H-1B visa holders. Both Jerry Yang, Sergei Brin and most of the foreign born tech workers immigrated to the US as children with their families. They became US citizens before they started yahoo or google. Once again, stop intentionally conflating H-1B visas with foreign born american citizens. Two different things.
    - theshadowmonkey 8y ago
      A lot of foreign born workers are not H1B because they got their green cards or citizenship. I'd safely say a majority of them were H1Bs till recently. Till 2008, getting a green card for any country was not a problem. It has gotten a lot worse since then.
    - petilon 8y ago
      >most of the foreign born workers in silicon valley are people who immigrated to the US as children Where did you get this stat? You're calling others liars while posting questionable stats yourself.
frandroid 8y ago
Born outside the U.S. ⊇ H1B migrant workers. The majority of those born outside the U.S. are immigrants.

porpoisely 8y ago

I have and even more, I know people who work in silicon valley. Have you been there? Ignoring the fact that "90% of tech workers there were born outside the USA" is absolutely false, what does that have to do with H-1B visas? It could be true that 90% of tech workers were born outside the USA and none of them could be H-1B visa holders. There are plenty of american tech workers who immigrated to the US as a child and became american citizens. Like sergei brin or jerry yang. They may be born outside the US, but none of them are H-1B visa holders. They were all american citizens. The fact that you are intentionally lying and being sneaky with stats is very worrisome.

darkpuma 8y ago

Well that's just flat out not true (the percentage is high, but not 90%), and you've completely ignored the meat of the criticism above.

interlocutor 8y ago
You're right, turns out it is about 70% https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens... What exactly is the meat of the criticism above?
- porpoisely 8y ago
  I'll say it again. Foreign born != H-1B visa. Like I said, most of the foreign born workers in silicon valley are people who immigrated to the US as children. You used to lie about Jerry Yang and Sergei Brin being H-1B visa holders. Both Jerry Yang, Sergei Brin and most of the foreign born tech workers immigrated to the US as children with their families. They became US citizens before they started yahoo or google. Once again, stop intentionally conflating H-1B visas with foreign born american citizens. Two different things.
  - theshadowmonkey 8y ago
    A lot of foreign born workers are not H1B because they got their green cards or citizenship. I'd safely say a majority of them were H1Bs till recently. Till 2008, getting a green card for any country was not a problem. It has gotten a lot worse since then.
  - petilon 8y ago
    >most of the foreign born workers in silicon valley are people who immigrated to the US as children Where did you get this stat? You're calling others liars while posting questionable stats yourself.

frandroid 8y ago

Born outside the U.S. ⊇ H1B migrant workers. The majority of those born outside the U.S. are immigrants.