4 ms·

Sounds like something that needs a manager appointed to hire a team to determine the appropriate process. Don't forget the Project Manager to keep track of scop

Sounds like something that needs a manager appointed to hire a team to determine the appropriate process. Don't forget the Project Manager to keep track of scope, the Business Analyst to prioritize according to company needs, and the Integration Engineers to ensure that other groups will be able to properly implement the solutions. Of course, the everything will need to go before the Change Management Committee and assigned a risk score before it can be implemented.

devmonk 16y ago
:) That's one way. The other way is to remove the overhead and determine at a basic level what the company's goals are and how you are going to gather and use metrics simply to determine how well those goals are being met. Outsource it or use existing resources, but get it done. The problem is how to determine metrics for things not easily quantified, but usually "software development" is not the company goal- rather it is "making the customer happy" and "making money". But, the goals can't be that generic. And, it has to be a low-overhead feedback loop, where progress must be seen quickly, otherwise it is not practical. The KISS principle also applies. Too much process is bad. But this is just a lot of talk. You should just do something simple to measure productivity and then keep iterating until you have something great. That is how great companies are born, whether they know it or not.
sili889q 16y ago
YOU ARE A GENIUS!! Thanks "notmyname" So well said :) of course all those people are necessary for business continuity
- devmonk 16y ago
  It's cheating to create an id just to applaud yourself, only when you're not trying to make humor by injecting a yes man into context of apparent disdain of work bureaucracy. (sili889q user created one hour ago by notmyname to coincide with his post)
  - notmyname 16y ago
    It's not me
    - lifestyleigni 16y ago
      I think notmyname's comment is great. It's so true the parallel to office space. The reason office space was such a successful movie was because of the real world experiences in corporate america that the audience has itself experienced. Thanks for sharing the comical real world example of office space like life
    - devmonk 16y ago
      but your username is notmyname... oh, we could be here for hours, like Abbott and Costello http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

devmonk 16y ago

:) That's one way. The other way is to remove the overhead and determine at a basic level what the company's goals are and how you are going to gather and use metrics simply to determine how well those goals are being met. Outsource it or use existing resources, but get it done. The problem is how to determine metrics for things not easily quantified, but usually "software development" is not the company goal- rather it is "making the customer happy" and "making money". But, the goals can't be that generic. And, it has to be a low-overhead feedback loop, where progress must be seen quickly, otherwise it is not practical. The KISS principle also applies. Too much process is bad. But this is just a lot of talk. You should just do something simple to measure productivity and then keep iterating until you have something great. That is how great companies are born, whether they know it or not.

sili889q 16y ago

YOU ARE A GENIUS!! Thanks "notmyname" So well said :) of course all those people are necessary for business continuity

devmonk 16y ago
It's cheating to create an id just to applaud yourself, only when you're not trying to make humor by injecting a yes man into context of apparent disdain of work bureaucracy. (sili889q user created one hour ago by notmyname to coincide with his post)
- notmyname 16y ago
  It's not me
  - lifestyleigni 16y ago
    I think notmyname's comment is great. It's so true the parallel to office space. The reason office space was such a successful movie was because of the real world experiences in corporate america that the audience has itself experienced. Thanks for sharing the comical real world example of office space like life
  - devmonk 16y ago
    but your username is notmyname... oh, we could be here for hours, like Abbott and Costello http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M