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Q3 is in my opinion too optimistic. Based on the status of hardware (TBD) there is probably no chance to start shipping parts in Q3. The design should be locked

Q3 is in my opinion too optimistic. Based on the status of hardware (TBD) there is probably no chance to start shipping parts in Q3. The design should be locked today. Will they be able to source the tools, get reliable suppliers to source enough components in 3-4 months timline ? The rest of the time till Q3 should be used to ramp-up the production and sort out quality/production issues. Probably will be out of stock for at least till Q3/Q4 2020. Good luck !

Casseres 8y ago
I wonder how many people pre-ordered the phone. It might be a small-enough order, that they don't need to reserve parts with any one supplier as any decent supplier could fill the order on short notice. I'm hoping the experience and feedback they get from this product run will justify the economics for them to itterate and push out a new hardware version in the future.
fabrice_d 8y ago
Q3 ends in August, not in 3 months. I agree it's still optimistic but that looks doable.
- u863321 8y ago
  February 2019 --> no design freeze, 3 to 4 months to source components and make tooling (very optimistic). May/July 2019 --> start of production. June/August 2019 --> debug, SOP, build stock, start shipping Optimistic. I hope they are very determined, I like the product/idea but they started a very hard task. I would rather take the most sold Android flagship device, reverse engineer the hardware and build a linux/bsd distro on top. Would not match their requirement (modem privacy etc.), but would take the really hard job of designing an up-to-date phone hardware. Early adopters will pay a lot to get performance, good camera, battery life, screen quality. I will use it as a toy instead of a daily tool if too many compromises are made in the name of privacy.
- mike-cardwell 8y ago
  Last day of September surely? So just over 7 months and 1 week from now.

Casseres 8y ago

I wonder how many people pre-ordered the phone. It might be a small-enough order, that they don't need to reserve parts with any one supplier as any decent supplier could fill the order on short notice. I'm hoping the experience and feedback they get from this product run will justify the economics for them to itterate and push out a new hardware version in the future.

fabrice_d 8y ago

Q3 ends in August, not in 3 months. I agree it's still optimistic but that looks doable.

u863321 8y ago
February 2019 --> no design freeze, 3 to 4 months to source components and make tooling (very optimistic). May/July 2019 --> start of production. June/August 2019 --> debug, SOP, build stock, start shipping Optimistic. I hope they are very determined, I like the product/idea but they started a very hard task. I would rather take the most sold Android flagship device, reverse engineer the hardware and build a linux/bsd distro on top. Would not match their requirement (modem privacy etc.), but would take the really hard job of designing an up-to-date phone hardware. Early adopters will pay a lot to get performance, good camera, battery life, screen quality. I will use it as a toy instead of a daily tool if too many compromises are made in the name of privacy.
mike-cardwell 8y ago
Last day of September surely? So just over 7 months and 1 week from now.