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Is it? Many people could retire after one year at 500k or 1M because their cost of living is such that they would be able to save almost all of it, and this wo

by cat199 8y ago

Is it? Many people could retire after one year at 500k or 1M because their cost of living is such that they would be able to save almost all of it, and this would spread across their retirement..

pjc50 8y ago
The average UK private pension pot is £100k ... this implies that either people with £1m should be retiring earlier, or we'll have a generation who can't afford to retire.
- CamTin 8y ago
  The situation is similar, if not worse, in the US, and the latter is true: absent government pension programs like Social Security, almost nobody can afford to retire. Social Security is the retirement plan for regular people. Basically only union workers with defined-benefit pensions and high-salary professionals who are able to fund their 401(k) meaningfully have any kind of plan for retirement besides living on Social Security. The luckiest can also draw on help from family, life insurance, and getting part-time work as e.g. a Walmart greeter. Thinking about retirement savings at all is kind of a luxury.
madengr 8y ago
Even a poverty level wage (for family of 4) is $25k/year. So $500k over a 20 year retirement sounds like a lot, but it’s not.
- minikites 8y ago
  You're leaving out the compound interest that could be earned through stocks/bonds.
  - madengr 8y ago
    Yes, but even bonds don't keep up with inflation, and you need enough principle to ride out the dips. The "safe" return is considered to be 4%, which is $20k on $500k, so you'd be dipping into the principle even on that poverty scale. It just take a lot more to retire than the average person realizes, and not eat Alpo.
- cat199 8y ago
  not saying it's easy, and no, doesn't sound like a lot. but it's possible, is my point - the difference on whether it is possible or not possible is the lifestyle one chooses to lead with it.

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Is it? Many people could retire after one year at 500k or 1M because their cost of living is such that they would be able to save almost all of it, and this wo

by cat199 8y ago

Is it? Many people could retire after one year at 500k or 1M because their cost of living is such that they would be able to save almost all of it, and this would spread across their retirement..

pjc50 8y ago
The average UK private pension pot is £100k ... this implies that either people with £1m should be retiring earlier, or we'll have a generation who can't afford to retire.
- CamTin 8y ago
  The situation is similar, if not worse, in the US, and the latter is true: absent government pension programs like Social Security, almost nobody can afford to retire. Social Security is the retirement plan for regular people. Basically only union workers with defined-benefit pensions and high-salary professionals who are able to fund their 401(k) meaningfully have any kind of plan for retirement besides living on Social Security. The luckiest can also draw on help from family, life insurance, and getting part-time work as e.g. a Walmart greeter. Thinking about retirement savings at all is kind of a luxury.
madengr 8y ago
Even a poverty level wage (for family of 4) is $25k/year. So $500k over a 20 year retirement sounds like a lot, but it’s not.
- minikites 8y ago
  You're leaving out the compound interest that could be earned through stocks/bonds.
  - madengr 8y ago
    Yes, but even bonds don't keep up with inflation, and you need enough principle to ride out the dips. The "safe" return is considered to be 4%, which is $20k on $500k, so you'd be dipping into the principle even on that poverty scale. It just take a lot more to retire than the average person realizes, and not eat Alpo.
- cat199 8y ago
  not saying it's easy, and no, doesn't sound like a lot. but it's possible, is my point - the difference on whether it is possible or not possible is the lifestyle one chooses to lead with it.