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So what's the alternative? I don't think the author is offering any ...

by zavulon 16y ago

signa11 16y ago
would a task based tracking system not be sufficient ? define a quantifiable high level abstract goal e.g. say implement high performance dhcp server. have an overall plan, with weekly (or some other granularity) checkpoints to assess progress etc. etc. you get the idea right ? or am i just being too naive ?
- icegreentea 16y ago
  Remember how seemingly everyone in university left assignments to the end? And that continued all the way to the end of school? Even 4th year when you really should have learned better? Yeah. If you let everyone work that way, then you're ALL in for some heartache. At least when your forced to hour in, now the majority will be working somewhat all the time. They might not be working at full efficiency, but they're working.
hasenj 16y ago
Spreading awareness of the problem is more important than you think.
- zavulon 16y ago
  I understand it's important... I just don't like criticism without offering an alternative. Sure, anyone can say something is wrong.. but what's the point of bringing it up without saying what a better way should be?
  - hasenj 16y ago
    1. Many people don't say it's wrong, most people think the system is there for very good reasons 2. He's not only saying it's bad, he's attempting to dissect and analyze why it's bad I actually like it when someone offers criticism without offering an alternative. If he offered an alternative, then people might be tempted to reject the whole criticism if they don't like the alternative. For example, if he proposed 4 hours work day (just for example), then someone could think "oh, he's just saying this because he's a lazy ass".
  - exit 16y ago
    > I just don't like criticism without offering an alternative. well sucks for you. god forbid someone should point out a fire without being a certified firefighter. raising awareness gets other people thinking about how to solve the problem you've noticed.
loca 16y ago
A British think tank thinks the working week should be cut to 21 hours: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8513783.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8513783.stm
- mkramlich 16y ago
  For white collar workers, that may have no impact on actual productivity per week. For blue collar workers, it's more likely to. Speaking in general terms.

So what's the alternative? I don't think the author is offering any ...

by zavulon 16y ago

So what's the alternative? I don't think the author is offering any ...

would a task based tracking system not be sufficient ? define a quantifiable high level abstract goal e.g. say implement high performance dhcp server. have an overall plan, with weekly (or some other granularity) checkpoints to assess progress etc. etc. you get the idea right ? or am i just being too naive ?

icegreentea 16y ago
Remember how seemingly everyone in university left assignments to the end? And that continued all the way to the end of school? Even 4th year when you really should have learned better? Yeah. If you let everyone work that way, then you're ALL in for some heartache. At least when your forced to hour in, now the majority will be working somewhat all the time. They might not be working at full efficiency, but they're working.

hasenj 16y ago

Spreading awareness of the problem is more important than you think.

zavulon 16y ago
I understand it's important... I just don't like criticism without offering an alternative. Sure, anyone can say something is wrong.. but what's the point of bringing it up without saying what a better way should be?
- hasenj 16y ago
  1. Many people don't say it's wrong, most people think the system is there for very good reasons 2. He's not only saying it's bad, he's attempting to dissect and analyze why it's bad I actually like it when someone offers criticism without offering an alternative. If he offered an alternative, then people might be tempted to reject the whole criticism if they don't like the alternative. For example, if he proposed 4 hours work day (just for example), then someone could think "oh, he's just saying this because he's a lazy ass".
- exit 16y ago
  > I just don't like criticism without offering an alternative. well sucks for you. god forbid someone should point out a fire without being a certified firefighter. raising awareness gets other people thinking about how to solve the problem you've noticed.

loca 16y ago

A British think tank thinks the working week should be cut to 21 hours: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8513783.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8513783.stm

mkramlich 16y ago
For white collar workers, that may have no impact on actual productivity per week. For blue collar workers, it's more likely to. Speaking in general terms.