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Again, Europe is many different legal systems, and blasphemy laws are not everywhere. I don't like that limitation to freedom of speech anymore than you, but al

by flexie 8y ago

Again, Europe is many different legal systems, and blasphemy laws are not everywhere. I don't like that limitation to freedom of speech anymore than you, but all countries, including the US have limitations such as libel, slander, pornography, obscenity, etc.

spaced-out 8y ago
Libel and slander aren't illegal, they're civil matters.
- flexie 8y ago
  As is copyright law.
  - anticensor 8y ago
    Compulsory licensing schemes are enforced according to criminal procedure.
ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
>Freedom of speech is as protected in the EU as it is in the US, possibly more. The EU is a legal entity. Europe is the continent/area. The EU does not protect freedom of speech more than the U.S.
- gmueckl 8y ago
  The EU is not a country and does not have its own laws. Things like this copyright directive will get turned into 28 distict member state level laws. Directives only set the common denominator for these laws. Also, the EHCR is an organization of the Council of Europe which is entirely unrelated to the EU. This is a weaker association of states including Turkey and Russia.
  - ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
    >The EU is not a country and does not have its own laws. Things like this copyright directive will get turned into 28 distict member state level laws. Directives only set the common denominator for these laws. So the EU could have a directive that guarantees freedom of speech across the board? Seems like your just arguing semantics.
    - gmueckl 8y ago
      Not just semantics. The state level laws resulting from directives are different from each other, sometimes substantially so. Also, the EU cannot regulate everything. I think that a directive about free speech is not possible. However, there is the Charta of Human Rights that is signed by all member states of the EU that guarantees freedom of speech. Again, this construct has the wrinkle that this charter demands the individual states to uphold these rights. It institutes the European Court of Justice as the highest court in matters concerning this charta.

by flexie 8y ago

spaced-out 8y ago

Libel and slander aren't illegal, they're civil matters.

flexie 8y ago
As is copyright law.
- anticensor 8y ago
  Compulsory licensing schemes are enforced according to criminal procedure.

ApolloFortyNine 8y ago

>Freedom of speech is as protected in the EU as it is in the US, possibly more. The EU is a legal entity. Europe is the continent/area. The EU does not protect freedom of speech more than the U.S.

gmueckl 8y ago
The EU is not a country and does not have its own laws. Things like this copyright directive will get turned into 28 distict member state level laws. Directives only set the common denominator for these laws. Also, the EHCR is an organization of the Council of Europe which is entirely unrelated to the EU. This is a weaker association of states including Turkey and Russia.
- ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
  >The EU is not a country and does not have its own laws. Things like this copyright directive will get turned into 28 distict member state level laws. Directives only set the common denominator for these laws. So the EU could have a directive that guarantees freedom of speech across the board? Seems like your just arguing semantics.
  - gmueckl 8y ago
    Not just semantics. The state level laws resulting from directives are different from each other, sometimes substantially so. Also, the EU cannot regulate everything. I think that a directive about free speech is not possible. However, there is the Charta of Human Rights that is signed by all member states of the EU that guarantees freedom of speech. Again, this construct has the wrinkle that this charter demands the individual states to uphold these rights. It institutes the European Court of Justice as the highest court in matters concerning this charta.