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>Maybe this will revitalize hosting of personal websites where there’s no “platform” to censor your free speech? In Germany, Austria and Switzerland you are re

by wbxrs 8y ago

>Maybe this will revitalize hosting of personal websites where there’s no “platform” to censor your free speech? In Germany, Austria and Switzerland you are required to disclose your full name, address, telephone number and more if you publish a personal website. This makes it impossible to keep a personal and anonymous website. That is why having platforms is important.

fauigerzigerk 8y ago
I'm pretty sure that using a Facebook page instead of your own web site does not absolve you of any disclosure obligations that you would otherwise have.
dmortin 8y ago
What if you host your German language site targeting readers in Germany outside of Germany? Is it against the law? There are plenty of hosting choices around the world. I don't see why anyone would host a site in Germany with this condition.
- oytis 8y ago
  I've dug into that topic a bit. The summary is if you're a German resident OR you're making a website aimed at German residents, you might be successfully sued. Where is it hosted, or whether it is in German at all doesn't matter much. There is of course always an option to use anonymous hosting and make it hard to identify you from the website content. Then people whose business is to sue other people on the internet will probably leave you alone. But that also destroys the social value of your page.
  - stale2002 8y ago
    > Where is it hosted, or whether it is in German at all doesn't matter much Well, it matters in that if you don't live in the EU, it is unlikely that they will be able to target you for anything. People in America don't spend much time worrying about the fact that in Saudi Arabia it is illegal to be gay, so I don't see why they would worry the much about copywrite laws in the EU.
    - dmortin 8y ago
      > Well, it matters in that if you don't live in the EU, it is unlikely that they will be able to target you for anything. I guess he means you can't escape the law simply by hosting the site outside of Germany, if you still want to live in Germany, because then they can sue you, even if the country where your site is hosted does not require you to display your home address, phone, etc.

by wbxrs 8y ago

fauigerzigerk 8y ago

I'm pretty sure that using a Facebook page instead of your own web site does not absolve you of any disclosure obligations that you would otherwise have.

dmortin 8y ago

What if you host your German language site targeting readers in Germany outside of Germany? Is it against the law? There are plenty of hosting choices around the world. I don't see why anyone would host a site in Germany with this condition.

oytis 8y ago
I've dug into that topic a bit. The summary is if you're a German resident OR you're making a website aimed at German residents, you might be successfully sued. Where is it hosted, or whether it is in German at all doesn't matter much. There is of course always an option to use anonymous hosting and make it hard to identify you from the website content. Then people whose business is to sue other people on the internet will probably leave you alone. But that also destroys the social value of your page.
- stale2002 8y ago
  > Where is it hosted, or whether it is in German at all doesn't matter much Well, it matters in that if you don't live in the EU, it is unlikely that they will be able to target you for anything. People in America don't spend much time worrying about the fact that in Saudi Arabia it is illegal to be gay, so I don't see why they would worry the much about copywrite laws in the EU.
  - dmortin 8y ago
    > Well, it matters in that if you don't live in the EU, it is unlikely that they will be able to target you for anything. I guess he means you can't escape the law simply by hosting the site outside of Germany, if you still want to live in Germany, because then they can sue you, even if the country where your site is hosted does not require you to display your home address, phone, etc.