Audio of oral history interview at the end of the linked article. Partial transcript at[1]. [1] https://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/an/2018/02/man2018020006.htm

Audio of oral history interview at the end of the linked article. Partial transcript at[1]. [1] https://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/an/2018/02/man2018020006.html https://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/an/2018/02/man2018020006....