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> The thing is, even if someone is a perv and gets off on this sort of thing, it isn't endangering her. Careful with that idea, it's some pretty enablist shit,

> The thing is, even if someone is a perv and gets off on this sort of thing, it isn't endangering her. Careful with that idea, it's some pretty enablist shit, and you most frequently hear it coming from the perverts themselves.

AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
What matters is if it is wrong or not, not who says it.
- diminoten 8y ago
  Yes, hence the "is enablist shit"... And no, being lumped in with pedophiles matters. I am trying to warn him who he sounds like, not making a rational argument against his position. It's up to him to decide if he wants to sound like a pedophile.
  - robbrown451 8y ago
    Well I'm talking about how I prioritize decisions about protecting my own daughter from harm from others, not about whether it is ok for me to look at / think about other people's daughters. Given that, if I sound like a pedophile, to me that says more about the listener than the speaker.
    - diminoten 8y ago
      Probably, but the listener may also be a judge, or the parents of the kids your daughter plays with, or someone else who has a material effect on the quality of your life.
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      - robbrown451 8y ago
        Yup, spent my time in front of judges. Self represented, up against nasty lawyers, solid week long trial. If this was a thing that could be used against me, I assure you, it would have. It wasn't, and I was awarded primary custody.
        diminoten 8y ago
        Okay cool, how can I get in touch with your ex then and let her know about this conversation?
        robbrown451 8y ago
        Not gonna post it here, but contact me rjbrown at gmail and I'll give you her email and her lawyer's email. Knock yourself out.
        diminoten 8y ago
        It's weird how far you're okay with going here, honestly this makes me concerned there's an issue more than your original comment. All I said was "be careful" and now you're giving me your ex's lawyer's contact info. What a weird escalation! This can only go badly for you, I hope you realize...

AnaniasAnanas 8y ago

What matters is if it is wrong or not, not who says it.

diminoten 8y ago
Yes, hence the "is enablist shit"... And no, being lumped in with pedophiles matters. I am trying to warn him who he sounds like, not making a rational argument against his position. It's up to him to decide if he wants to sound like a pedophile.
- robbrown451 8y ago
  Well I'm talking about how I prioritize decisions about protecting my own daughter from harm from others, not about whether it is ok for me to look at / think about other people's daughters. Given that, if I sound like a pedophile, to me that says more about the listener than the speaker.
  - diminoten 8y ago
    Probably, but the listener may also be a judge, or the parents of the kids your daughter plays with, or someone else who has a material effect on the quality of your life.
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    - robbrown451 8y ago
      Yup, spent my time in front of judges. Self represented, up against nasty lawyers, solid week long trial. If this was a thing that could be used against me, I assure you, it would have. It wasn't, and I was awarded primary custody.
      - diminoten 8y ago
        Okay cool, how can I get in touch with your ex then and let her know about this conversation?
        robbrown451 8y ago
        Not gonna post it here, but contact me rjbrown at gmail and I'll give you her email and her lawyer's email. Knock yourself out.
        diminoten 8y ago
        It's weird how far you're okay with going here, honestly this makes me concerned there's an issue more than your original comment. All I said was "be careful" and now you're giving me your ex's lawyer's contact info. What a weird escalation! This can only go badly for you, I hope you realize...