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Compared to e.g. Finnish or Norwegian driver education, the US system still looks like an absolute joke. Those countries have top speed limits of 75 mph and 70

Compared to e.g. Finnish or Norwegian driver education, the US system still looks like an absolute joke. Those countries have top speed limits of 75 mph and 70 mph, respectively. It's not got anything to do with Autobahn, per se.

Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
> Compared to e.g. Finnish or Norwegian driver education, the US system still looks like an absolute joke. Don't even need to compare the US system to anything to know how much of a joke it is. I don't know how much things have since I got my license in 2001, but in Oregon, driver's ed classes weren't even required. At 15 1/2 years old, you take a 30-question, multiple-choice written test to get a learner's permit that allows you to drive on public roads with a licensed driver in the passenger seat. Then at 16, you can take a 15-minute behind-the-wheel test to get your license. That's all. Your parents would teach you to drive, who would often end up leaving large gaps in your knowledge or even teach things that are flat-out incorrect. A friend of mine was taught specifically to camp the left lane if he's going to be on the highway for more than 5 miles. Driver's ed should be a requirement. The courses should include practical lessons including emergency maneuvers on wet pavement and how to recover from a slide. Being told "steer into/out of the skid" isn't helpful. Everyone should have practiced recovery after loss of traction. Everyone should have had to do emergency stops on both wet and dry pavement so they can actually appreciate the difference in stopping distance. Instead, you get morons that drive 60+ mph on a snowy highway in dense fog because nobody told them you should slow down for that, and somehow it isn't common sense. Videos like this [0] need to be required viewing to get a license. This pileup was 100% preventable. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk
maerF0x0 8y ago
One thing I will give credit where due is that when I had to renew my license last time I had to retake the computer tests. That's more than the place I moved here from.

Sohcahtoa82 8y ago

> Compared to e.g. Finnish or Norwegian driver education, the US system still looks like an absolute joke. Don't even need to compare the US system to anything to know how much of a joke it is. I don't know how much things have since I got my license in 2001, but in Oregon, driver's ed classes weren't even required. At 15 1/2 years old, you take a 30-question, multiple-choice written test to get a learner's permit that allows you to drive on public roads with a licensed driver in the passenger seat. Then at 16, you can take a 15-minute behind-the-wheel test to get your license. That's all. Your parents would teach you to drive, who would often end up leaving large gaps in your knowledge or even teach things that are flat-out incorrect. A friend of mine was taught specifically to camp the left lane if he's going to be on the highway for more than 5 miles. Driver's ed should be a requirement. The courses should include practical lessons including emergency maneuvers on wet pavement and how to recover from a slide. Being told "steer into/out of the skid" isn't helpful. Everyone should have practiced recovery after loss of traction. Everyone should have had to do emergency stops on both wet and dry pavement so they can actually appreciate the difference in stopping distance. Instead, you get morons that drive 60+ mph on a snowy highway in dense fog because nobody told them you should slow down for that, and somehow it isn't common sense. Videos like this [0] need to be required viewing to get a license. This pileup was 100% preventable. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk

maerF0x0 8y ago

One thing I will give credit where due is that when I had to renew my license last time I had to retake the computer tests. That's more than the place I moved here from.