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Does viewing this link make one a criminal under the UK's new legislation on viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist? Anyway the page has disappea

Does viewing this link make one a criminal under the UK's new legislation on viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist? Anyway the page has disappeared but can be seen on the Wayback Machine. The page itself seems not to contain any information that would fall under that legislation but perhaps some of the links it contains might. As it is in the Wayback Machine and that is mirrored I wonder if the mere existence of the mirror would be enough to expose the hosting entity to a risk under the UK legislation.

dcplogic 8y ago
I guess it's likely to be of help to a terrorist the same way https://www.khanacademy.org/math https://www.khanacademy.org/math is.
Tepix 8y ago
"viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist" - seriously? That would apply to a guide on how to browse the web and use Google, wouldn't it?
- noir_lord 8y ago
  That's why overly broad laws are a terrible idea. This and it's ilk are basically "because we don't like your face" catch-all's. Sadly the UK is good at those to whit - The Anti-Social Behaviour Order (defunct but lastesd from 98 to 2015) which made previously criminal behavior a civil matter. We are a curiously illiberal liberal democracy.
- youzicha 8y ago
  Or a gym training plan, since terrorists don't want to be overweight! https://youzicha.tumblr.com/post/166323190559/documents-banned-by-section-58-of-the-terrorism https://youzicha.tumblr.com/post/166323190559/documents-bann...
DanBC 8y ago
> Does viewing this link make one a criminal under the UK's new legislation on viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist? 1) No 2) It's not new law. The law is from 2000. You can diff these two for the new bits original: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58/enacted https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58/enac... new: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58 3) Stop reading the shitty fucking register, because it's misleading you.
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- benj111 8y ago
  "makes a record of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" Instructions on how to build a cruise missile would seem to fall under that. So do you have a slightly more helpful answer. Whether it is from 2000 or 2019, seems irrelevant.
  - RIMR 8y ago
    Find me the instructions. This mostly seems like a website about a project - not how to recreate it.
    - blotter_paper 8y ago
      That seems to be by design: >Obviously the goal of this website is not to provide terrorists or other nefarious types with the plans for a working cruise missile but to prove the point that nations need to be prepared for this type of sophisticated attack from within their own borders. >A detailed level of documentation will be provided to those who qualify and are willing to pay a small subscription for full access to the project diary.
      - martin_a 8y ago
        > pay a small subscription for full access to the project diary Recurring payments do not work well with suicide bombers and alike. You've got to be careful with this.
0db532a0 8y ago
The page worked for me in the UK.

dcplogic 8y ago

I guess it's likely to be of help to a terrorist the same way https://www.khanacademy.org/math https://www.khanacademy.org/math is.

Tepix 8y ago

"viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist" - seriously? That would apply to a guide on how to browse the web and use Google, wouldn't it?

noir_lord 8y ago
That's why overly broad laws are a terrible idea. This and it's ilk are basically "because we don't like your face" catch-all's. Sadly the UK is good at those to whit - The Anti-Social Behaviour Order (defunct but lastesd from 98 to 2015) which made previously criminal behavior a civil matter. We are a curiously illiberal liberal democracy.
youzicha 8y ago
Or a gym training plan, since terrorists don't want to be overweight! https://youzicha.tumblr.com/post/166323190559/documents-banned-by-section-58-of-the-terrorism https://youzicha.tumblr.com/post/166323190559/documents-bann...

DanBC 8y ago

> Does viewing this link make one a criminal under the UK's new legislation on viewing material likely to be of help to a terrorist? 1) No 2) It's not new law. The law is from 2000. You can diff these two for the new bits original: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58/enacted https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58/enac... new: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58 3) Stop reading the shitty fucking register, because it's misleading you.

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benj111 8y ago
"makes a record of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" Instructions on how to build a cruise missile would seem to fall under that. So do you have a slightly more helpful answer. Whether it is from 2000 or 2019, seems irrelevant.
- RIMR 8y ago
  Find me the instructions. This mostly seems like a website about a project - not how to recreate it.
  - blotter_paper 8y ago
    That seems to be by design: >Obviously the goal of this website is not to provide terrorists or other nefarious types with the plans for a working cruise missile but to prove the point that nations need to be prepared for this type of sophisticated attack from within their own borders. >A detailed level of documentation will be provided to those who qualify and are willing to pay a small subscription for full access to the project diary.
    - martin_a 8y ago
      > pay a small subscription for full access to the project diary Recurring payments do not work well with suicide bombers and alike. You've got to be careful with this.

0db532a0 8y ago

The page worked for me in the UK.