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> ML can detect kids in videos It can't detect context, however. >The reason why they find licensed music in videos is because It's technically easier to do

by tcd 8y ago

> ML can detect kids in videos It can't detect context, however. >The reason why they find licensed music in videos is because It's technically easier to do so. ML is still new, and it still makes mistakes, this is why people complain about content ID because it takes down videos that are "fair use". Explain to me, Mr Expert, how a ML algorithm can understand the nuance of the law, interpret it flawlessly like a human would (say, in a court of law). Unless you're saying these cases no longer require humans, courts and judges, and ML is at a point where it's _flawless_ and accurate 100% of the time. It's a shame you're so technically weak minded, I thought the Hackernews community would be educated in this regard. Please go read about how ML works before making such comments in the future, they make you look really stupid.

illumin8 8y ago
>> ML can detect kids in videos > It can't detect context, however. You don't actually need to, at least initially. You only need to detect kids, and when you have some threshold of reports on comments on a video where the computer vision algorithm detected kids in the frame that rise to the level a human should take a look, the human can flag the video as containing elements of CP, which would kick in the following: - Deeper ML analysis of the dependency graph of commentors, related videos. - Blacklisting or law enforcement notification for commentors that are violating the law. - Training data that can be used to train more advanced algorithms. Because there is no profit motive to do so, like there is with music licensing, they won't do it. > It's technically easier to do so. I'm not talking about determining context with ML. That is a hard problem, of course. But identifying "child human" with a computer vision algorithm is very simple, then relying on human moderators to initiate the dependency graph traversal. > Please go read about how ML works before making such comments in the future, they make you look really stupid. No need for the ad hominem. I'm not an ML expert, but I understand enough of the basics to know what is possible.

by tcd 8y ago

illumin8 8y ago

>> ML can detect kids in videos > It can't detect context, however. You don't actually need to, at least initially. You only need to detect kids, and when you have some threshold of reports on comments on a video where the computer vision algorithm detected kids in the frame that rise to the level a human should take a look, the human can flag the video as containing elements of CP, which would kick in the following: - Deeper ML analysis of the dependency graph of commentors, related videos. - Blacklisting or law enforcement notification for commentors that are violating the law. - Training data that can be used to train more advanced algorithms. Because there is no profit motive to do so, like there is with music licensing, they won't do it. > It's technically easier to do so. I'm not talking about determining context with ML. That is a hard problem, of course. But identifying "child human" with a computer vision algorithm is very simple, then relying on human moderators to initiate the dependency graph traversal. > Please go read about how ML works before making such comments in the future, they make you look really stupid. No need for the ad hominem. I'm not an ML expert, but I understand enough of the basics to know what is possible.