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Let me disagree here. Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. Some functions are working incorrectly, som

by xytop 16y ago

Let me disagree here. Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. Some functions are working incorrectly, some just not working, some events firing, some not. Right click is disabled too.. I'm not against Opera, but we should think about stuffs above. Regarding Google - google making their money from adverts, from people who using google. Do you really think that google could deliberately disable Opera support due to some internal polytics and renounce from money of many opera users? I think there were good reasons such as bad js support, because javascript is widely used by google in their services.

sgift 16y ago
Your argumentation ignores that Google had to invest money to test for another browser, which may be more than the money they can make on adverts to Opera users. This has nothing to do with any supposed problems in Operas js handling (which I've never noted ... for me the js works just fine in Opera and disallowing js to handle the right mouse button is a great feature), but is a simple cost-benefit analysis.
- andrewl-hn 16y ago
  Google preemptively tries to kick Opera out of the browser world. Many new services come up with dedicated code to block Opera claiming that this browser can't handle them. I can't tell you how many times I changed Opera's UA string to Firefox and those services start working. Magic! <sarcasm Not testing for a particular browser is fine (and truth be told Opera just works in 99.99% of the time). Blocking it just because one can is pure evil!
  - Shorel 16y ago
    Of course, Opera is the only browser that has challenged Chrome claims of the faster browser ever (in production builds, that's it). > Blocking it just because one can is pure evil! It means they value market share over standards. Very evil indeed.
lars 16y ago
> Do you really think that google could deliberately disable Opera support due to some internal polytics and renounce from money of many opera users? Yes. Google Docs officially does not support Opera. Not Gmail either. This was a policy change that happened some time ago. Sources: http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37560 http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6557 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... In my experience, both of these always work in Opera though, if you actually try.
hoppipolla 16y ago
(disclaimer: Opera Employee, Core QA) If you are having problems with javascript in Opera, I would really like to hear about them so that they can be fixed. There is a bug report form at [1], or reply here. Obviously it is nice if you have a reduced testcase, but just knowing that a site fails is immensely useful. [1] https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/
- xytop 16y ago
  http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_thread/thread/00e23c48e33f1702 http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_... http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 Aggressive opera caching and different behavior from others browsers is not what I like.
  - bruceboughton 16y ago
    Why the questionhub link? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3899985/opera-error-uncaught-exception-typeerror-cannot-convert-xxxxxx-to-object http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3899985/opera-error-uncau...
  - hoppipolla 16y ago
    http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 This is a known issue. No promises, but it looks like a fix might be ready sooner rather than later. http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_thread/thread/00e23c48e33f1702 http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_... It's not instantly obvious to me what the problem is here, so I will need to investigate further. Thanks for the bug reports!
e_h 16y ago
> Right click is disabled too It works in zimbra.
famrey 16y ago
> Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. I would have to disagree. Some people keep claiming that, but they can never seem to provide any evidence that Opera has more problems than other browsers.

by xytop 16y ago

sgift 16y ago

Your argumentation ignores that Google had to invest money to test for another browser, which may be more than the money they can make on adverts to Opera users. This has nothing to do with any supposed problems in Operas js handling (which I've never noted ... for me the js works just fine in Opera and disallowing js to handle the right mouse button is a great feature), but is a simple cost-benefit analysis.

andrewl-hn 16y ago
Google preemptively tries to kick Opera out of the browser world. Many new services come up with dedicated code to block Opera claiming that this browser can't handle them. I can't tell you how many times I changed Opera's UA string to Firefox and those services start working. Magic! <sarcasm Not testing for a particular browser is fine (and truth be told Opera just works in 99.99% of the time). Blocking it just because one can is pure evil!
- Shorel 16y ago
  Of course, Opera is the only browser that has challenged Chrome claims of the faster browser ever (in production builds, that's it). > Blocking it just because one can is pure evil! It means they value market share over standards. Very evil indeed.

lars 16y ago

> Do you really think that google could deliberately disable Opera support due to some internal polytics and renounce from money of many opera users? Yes. Google Docs officially does not support Opera. Not Gmail either. This was a policy change that happened some time ago. Sources: http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37560 http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6557 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... In my experience, both of these always work in Opera though, if you actually try.

hoppipolla 16y ago

(disclaimer: Opera Employee, Core QA) If you are having problems with javascript in Opera, I would really like to hear about them so that they can be fixed. There is a bug report form at [1], or reply here. Obviously it is nice if you have a reduced testcase, but just knowing that a site fails is immensely useful. [1] https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

xytop 16y ago
http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_thread/thread/00e23c48e33f1702 http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_... http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 Aggressive opera caching and different behavior from others browsers is not what I like.
- bruceboughton 16y ago
  Why the questionhub link? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3899985/opera-error-uncaught-exception-typeerror-cannot-convert-xxxxxx-to-object http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3899985/opera-error-uncau...
- hoppipolla 16y ago
  http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 http://www.questionhub.com/StackOverflow/3899985 This is a known issue. No promises, but it looks like a fix might be ready sooner rather than later. http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_thread/thread/00e23c48e33f1702 http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-js-api-v3/browse_... It's not instantly obvious to me what the problem is here, so I will need to investigate further. Thanks for the bug reports!

e_h 16y ago

> Right click is disabled too It works in zimbra.

famrey 16y ago

> Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. I would have to disagree. Some people keep claiming that, but they can never seem to provide any evidence that Opera has more problems than other browsers.