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I had similar idea, but wanted to do it anonymously. I saw a lot of problems with that idea and have given up. So, you stated: LBRY uses a blockchain to store

I had similar idea, but wanted to do it anonymously. I saw a lot of problems with that idea and have given up. So, you stated: LBRY uses a blockchain to store metadata related to digital content and provide pointers to a more traditional decentralized P2P network like BitTorrent. The blockchain also provides publisher identities, human-friendly URLs (e.g. lbry://@MinutePhysics/magnetic-levitation), and a payment mechanism. My questions would be: - Why blockchain and not something else? I had similar idea in mind a while ago, wanted to "revolutionises" piracy My intention was to use BigchainDB for metadata, anonymise version of IPFS for actual storage, make each movie an ERC721 and attach ERC20 to all as rewards method for people who keep files up. There would be only donations, not really a price for watch / download. I still think that it's overcomplicated and that there's no need for it. Especially those days when you can watch on netflix/itunes/amazon/hulu/youtube... for some small amount. None wanna bother with torrents when he can pay $10 and watch whatever he wanna watch. - Why published identity? I guess that idea is that all content is actually legal and there are no pirate movies / tv shows? Even so, how will you control what someone share? You can get into a lot of trouble for doing this? - Payment mechanism for legal and original content is great, but again, how will you control who and what is uploaded? First of all legal movie distributers will not use it because content will end up in P2P, they don't wanna do that and wanna distribute through platforms from where they can get a constant revenue stream. If someone upload illegal content (the one that they don't really own) how will you check that? - There's also a problem with content like child pornography. How are you going to prevent upload of those? You can't really watch everything that's uploaded? Conclusion: I see only big problems and not real value here. This can be also easily accomplished with simple database? Token mechanics, as reward system is also questionable. Who will give liquidity for those tokens?

kauffj 8y ago
- Why blockchain and not something else? I'm not aware of any other system can provide the permissionless and censorship-resistant aspects of blockchain while still maintaining a coherent, single view of the network, though I admit I'm only loosely familiar with BigchainDB. - Why published identity? I guess that idea is that all content is actually legal and there are no pirate movies / tv shows? It's possible to publish anonymously if that is your preference. Even using an "identity" you can be anonymous, they're just cryptographically provable pseudonyms. Open protocols do not have a legal obligation to perform censorship at the protocol level, only users of the protocol must censor (see HTTP, BitTorrent, etc.). - How will you control who and what is uploaded? ...legal movie distributers will not use it because content will end up in P2P... We don't. Currently over 750,000 pieces of content are available on LBRY and to our knowledge only a little over 100 are infringing. We do receive and process DMCA takedown requests and provide a service that lists content that is illegal to access in the United States. Official applications that we release respect this endpoint, but it's not even legally clear that we have to do this (e.g. uTorrent could do the same, but does not). Additionally, LBRY already has one Hollywood studio making films available. You can watch a James Franco film (Howl) or a David Cross film (It's a Disaster). All existing attempts to restrict re-distribution of digital content do not work and there are strong theoretical reasons to believe they never will. Hopefully more studios will eventually be as enlightened as Oscilloscope. - There's also a problem with content like child pornography. How are you going to prevent upload of those? This is essentially already answered above. You can read a bit more here: https://lbry.io/what#combatting-the-ugly https://lbry.io/what#combatting-the-ugly
- NekoNormalan 8y ago
  Thanks for your answers! About this one: "I'm not aware of any other system can provide the permissionless and censorship-resistant aspects of blockchain while still maintaining a coherent, single view of the network, though I admit I'm only loosely familiar with BigchainDB." Maybe you also wanna look at Google Trillian? https://github.com/google/trillian https://github.com/google/trillian

kauffj 8y ago

- Why blockchain and not something else? I'm not aware of any other system can provide the permissionless and censorship-resistant aspects of blockchain while still maintaining a coherent, single view of the network, though I admit I'm only loosely familiar with BigchainDB. - Why published identity? I guess that idea is that all content is actually legal and there are no pirate movies / tv shows? It's possible to publish anonymously if that is your preference. Even using an "identity" you can be anonymous, they're just cryptographically provable pseudonyms. Open protocols do not have a legal obligation to perform censorship at the protocol level, only users of the protocol must censor (see HTTP, BitTorrent, etc.). - How will you control who and what is uploaded? ...legal movie distributers will not use it because content will end up in P2P... We don't. Currently over 750,000 pieces of content are available on LBRY and to our knowledge only a little over 100 are infringing. We do receive and process DMCA takedown requests and provide a service that lists content that is illegal to access in the United States. Official applications that we release respect this endpoint, but it's not even legally clear that we have to do this (e.g. uTorrent could do the same, but does not). Additionally, LBRY already has one Hollywood studio making films available. You can watch a James Franco film (Howl) or a David Cross film (It's a Disaster). All existing attempts to restrict re-distribution of digital content do not work and there are strong theoretical reasons to believe they never will. Hopefully more studios will eventually be as enlightened as Oscilloscope. - There's also a problem with content like child pornography. How are you going to prevent upload of those? This is essentially already answered above. You can read a bit more here: https://lbry.io/what#combatting-the-ugly https://lbry.io/what#combatting-the-ugly

NekoNormalan 8y ago
Thanks for your answers! About this one: "I'm not aware of any other system can provide the permissionless and censorship-resistant aspects of blockchain while still maintaining a coherent, single view of the network, though I admit I'm only loosely familiar with BigchainDB." Maybe you also wanna look at Google Trillian? https://github.com/google/trillian https://github.com/google/trillian