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That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera,

by Tomek_ 16y ago

That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".

pornel 16y ago
The way Opera hides http:// http:// is a nice touch (edit: because they avoided copy&paste problem that Chrome has), but such addressbar style has been pioneered by Firefox (extensions) and Chrome.
- nodata 16y ago
  It's not. It breaks copy and paste.
  - balakk 16y ago
    Have you tried it? it doesn't.. when the focus is on the address bar it reverts to the whole URL.
    - nodata 16y ago
      Then they fixed it since last month.
      - Arve 16y ago
        This feature didn't exist last month -- it was added publicly on november 17th, in other words two days ago.
- irahul 16y ago
  Dunno about Chrome but I don't have the copy and paste problem in Chromium 9.0.584.0 (66224) Ubuntu 10.10. Since Chrome is released from the same base, either it should already be there or would be there in the future releases.
  - pornel 16y ago
    The problem people complain about is that when you try to copy domain name alone (e.g. to ssh to it) http:// http:// gets copied unexpectedly. It's a feature that for some is a bug. Opera avoided the issue by showing full URL when you focus addressbar, so you see what you're copying and can edit protocol part.
bambax 16y ago
I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". How are they going to ever understand them if browsers don't show it to them??!? Hiding query parameters breaks the relation between a url and its content; now all of Google is under the same "www.google.com" url: how is that "better"? By the same principle that "young people don't understand words" let's remove all printed words and simply print books with the same cover and the same title -- they're all "books" anyway.
- sgift 16y ago
  This feature evokes unpleasant memories of Microsofts decision to hide file extensions and all the pain which came because of this. The only good news is that you can deactivate the feature in your preferences.
  - trezor 16y ago
    Too bad you can't do that in Chrome.
    - xorglorb 16y ago
      I keep a patched version of Chromium around for that very reason. All you have to do is change one line in the sources. I'll dig up the patch and send it to you once I get back on a real computer.
- pornel 16y ago
  I don't like that they hide query string, but they've implemented hiding of protocol well (doesn't interfere with copy&paste). I've realized that hiding of https:// https:// actually makes sense. You could mistakenly believe that page delivered over https:// https:// is secure, but there are several cases, when it's not true (e.g. page embedding JavaScript over plain HTTP). A true security indicator replacing https:// https:// in the addressbar makes more sense, and it shows secure only when connection is really secure (as far as SSL is concerned of course).

by Tomek_ 16y ago

That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".

pornel 16y ago

The way Opera hides http:// http:// is a nice touch (edit: because they avoided copy&paste problem that Chrome has), but such addressbar style has been pioneered by Firefox (extensions) and Chrome.

nodata 16y ago
It's not. It breaks copy and paste.
- balakk 16y ago
  Have you tried it? it doesn't.. when the focus is on the address bar it reverts to the whole URL.
  - nodata 16y ago
    Then they fixed it since last month.
    - Arve 16y ago
      This feature didn't exist last month -- it was added publicly on november 17th, in other words two days ago.
irahul 16y ago
Dunno about Chrome but I don't have the copy and paste problem in Chromium 9.0.584.0 (66224) Ubuntu 10.10. Since Chrome is released from the same base, either it should already be there or would be there in the future releases.
- pornel 16y ago
  The problem people complain about is that when you try to copy domain name alone (e.g. to ssh to it) http:// http:// gets copied unexpectedly. It's a feature that for some is a bug. Opera avoided the issue by showing full URL when you focus addressbar, so you see what you're copying and can edit protocol part.

bambax 16y ago

I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". How are they going to ever understand them if browsers don't show it to them??!? Hiding query parameters breaks the relation between a url and its content; now all of Google is under the same "www.google.com" url: how is that "better"? By the same principle that "young people don't understand words" let's remove all printed words and simply print books with the same cover and the same title -- they're all "books" anyway.

sgift 16y ago
This feature evokes unpleasant memories of Microsofts decision to hide file extensions and all the pain which came because of this. The only good news is that you can deactivate the feature in your preferences.
- trezor 16y ago
  Too bad you can't do that in Chrome.
  - xorglorb 16y ago
    I keep a patched version of Chromium around for that very reason. All you have to do is change one line in the sources. I'll dig up the patch and send it to you once I get back on a real computer.
pornel 16y ago
I don't like that they hide query string, but they've implemented hiding of protocol well (doesn't interfere with copy&paste). I've realized that hiding of https:// https:// actually makes sense. You could mistakenly believe that page delivered over https:// https:// is secure, but there are several cases, when it's not true (e.g. page embedding JavaScript over plain HTTP). A true security indicator replacing https:// https:// in the addressbar makes more sense, and it shows secure only when connection is really secure (as far as SSL is concerned of course).