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Somebody is going to point out that you and your wife made the decision to have children as well as having your wife stay at home with them instead of working,

Somebody is going to point out that you and your wife made the decision to have children as well as having your wife stay at home with them instead of working, so it might as well be me. You made conscious decisions that excluded you from opportunities, sorry.

jriot 8y ago
Seems to be the same for women here. It was their choice to have children thus leaving their field. Why do we care that not everyone is offered the same opportunities? Life isn't fair. Until I see women fighting to take on all the roles men have taken in life, Alaskan commercial fishermen, roughneck oil rig workers, loggers etc... and just not 1 or 2, equal representation throughout I am not concerned with unequal representation in STEM, tech or any of the fashionable areas to be concerned with.
- mav3rick 8y ago
  "Why do we care that not everyone is offered the same opportunities? Life isn't fair." Does that mean we live with the status quo ? Whether it's institutional racism, sexism or plain fascism, do we not fight against inequalities in society to make it better ? You're lucky to have 24x7 electricity and internet connection, you wouldn't be so gung ho about "Life isn't fair" if you couldn't sustain yourself. "Until I see women fighting to take on all the roles men have taken in life, Alaskan commercial fishermen, roughneck oil rig workers, loggers etc... and just not 1 or 2, equal representation throughout I am not concerned with unequal representation in STEM, tech or any of the fashionable areas to be concerned with." Who are you to gatekeep what they can or can't go in ? I guarantee you most middle class males also won't go for these jobs, demand is often governed by economic opportunities and right now services and software is ruling the roost. Who are you to decide these arbitrary standards for being eligible for "fashionable" sectors.
  - jriot 8y ago
    Life will never be fair. That is the status quo of life since the beginning of time, it will never change. Regardless of what you try to do, it will never be fair. I didn't see women fighting to get into those physically demanding jobs, or demand quotas or any of the other nonsense we see today. It's fashionable to be tech because it is easy work that provides a comfortable lifestyle. Thinking otherwise is foolish. I can decide these arbitrary standards just as one else can decide their own arbitrary standard just because they don't conform to your standards doesn't mean they are wrong. Any quota placed on the diversity of race, gender or another divide we can think of is asine, waste of time, and pointless. You can think otherwise, I don't really care, I don't need everyone to like or agree with me. I accept that as a part of life.
    - aeredhel 8y ago
      Original piece was about science, and it does not pay anywhere near as well as tech does. And plenty of jobs provide comfortable lifestyle, the IT is fashionable because it is all the hype now. > I didn't see women fighting to get into those physically demanding jobs I don't see hordes of men striving to be lumberjacks or miners either. For some reason most men want to sit in the comfortable office or a research lab too. Although I agree with you about "life isn't fair and probably never will be" part, gatekeeping women from entering professions and not offering them equal opportunities (should be italicized) is not the unfairness we should keep. It is a degenerate mindset that must be eradicated. But yeah, expecting equality of outcome is foolish and quotas are probably not a good idea.
    - mav3rick 8y ago
      Life was more fair to you clearly. Easy to sit on your high chair and sneer at the ones below. Luckily the entire world doesn't think like you.
    - mav3rick 8y ago
      Also things will always be bad doesn't mean we don't try to make it better.

jriot 8y ago

Seems to be the same for women here. It was their choice to have children thus leaving their field. Why do we care that not everyone is offered the same opportunities? Life isn't fair. Until I see women fighting to take on all the roles men have taken in life, Alaskan commercial fishermen, roughneck oil rig workers, loggers etc... and just not 1 or 2, equal representation throughout I am not concerned with unequal representation in STEM, tech or any of the fashionable areas to be concerned with.

mav3rick 8y ago
"Why do we care that not everyone is offered the same opportunities? Life isn't fair." Does that mean we live with the status quo ? Whether it's institutional racism, sexism or plain fascism, do we not fight against inequalities in society to make it better ? You're lucky to have 24x7 electricity and internet connection, you wouldn't be so gung ho about "Life isn't fair" if you couldn't sustain yourself. "Until I see women fighting to take on all the roles men have taken in life, Alaskan commercial fishermen, roughneck oil rig workers, loggers etc... and just not 1 or 2, equal representation throughout I am not concerned with unequal representation in STEM, tech or any of the fashionable areas to be concerned with." Who are you to gatekeep what they can or can't go in ? I guarantee you most middle class males also won't go for these jobs, demand is often governed by economic opportunities and right now services and software is ruling the roost. Who are you to decide these arbitrary standards for being eligible for "fashionable" sectors.
- jriot 8y ago
  Life will never be fair. That is the status quo of life since the beginning of time, it will never change. Regardless of what you try to do, it will never be fair. I didn't see women fighting to get into those physically demanding jobs, or demand quotas or any of the other nonsense we see today. It's fashionable to be tech because it is easy work that provides a comfortable lifestyle. Thinking otherwise is foolish. I can decide these arbitrary standards just as one else can decide their own arbitrary standard just because they don't conform to your standards doesn't mean they are wrong. Any quota placed on the diversity of race, gender or another divide we can think of is asine, waste of time, and pointless. You can think otherwise, I don't really care, I don't need everyone to like or agree with me. I accept that as a part of life.
  - aeredhel 8y ago
    Original piece was about science, and it does not pay anywhere near as well as tech does. And plenty of jobs provide comfortable lifestyle, the IT is fashionable because it is all the hype now. > I didn't see women fighting to get into those physically demanding jobs I don't see hordes of men striving to be lumberjacks or miners either. For some reason most men want to sit in the comfortable office or a research lab too. Although I agree with you about "life isn't fair and probably never will be" part, gatekeeping women from entering professions and not offering them equal opportunities (should be italicized) is not the unfairness we should keep. It is a degenerate mindset that must be eradicated. But yeah, expecting equality of outcome is foolish and quotas are probably not a good idea.
  - mav3rick 8y ago
    Life was more fair to you clearly. Easy to sit on your high chair and sneer at the ones below. Luckily the entire world doesn't think like you.
  - mav3rick 8y ago
    Also things will always be bad doesn't mean we don't try to make it better.