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Border search exception (to the 4th amendment warrant requirement): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_se

Border search exception (to the 4th amendment warrant requirement): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception In a similar vein, check out Exigent Circumstance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstances http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstances The text of the fourth amendment to the constitution: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

nubian 16y ago
The government has decided that the "border" extends 100 miles inland from official land/sea borders. This apparently covers 2/3rds to 4/5ths of the U.S. population. Coverage on the 100-mile-thick ACLU-dubbed "Constitution-Free Zone": Wired: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/aclu-assails-10/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/aclu-assails-10/ Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/10/aclu-23-of-us-population-lives-in-constitution-free-zone.ars http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/10/aclu-23-of-us-p... (Note the entire land area of the Hawaiian islands are covered, as is the entire state of Florida.) I think it's probably even worse than that, though, because International airports count as "borders" no matter how far inland. So I would not be surprised to see this extended to a 100-mile radius of all international airports as well, which would cover almost everybody.
- _delirium 16y ago
  I remember being pretty surprised by this when I was a kid, and we had to stop at a checkpoint on I-10 in West Texas, where it turns away from the Mexican border (eastbound) to head into central Texas. I recall thinking that it must be some sort of emergency, like they were looking for an escaped criminal or something, because surely those kinds of checkpoints aren't allowed in a free country in routine circumstances?
- smackfu 16y ago
  This case was actually at the border though, which no one would dispute falls under the specific Constitutional item.
Tamerlin 16y ago
Note the "probable cause" part. The TSA doesn't have probably cause for most of its harassment, and there is definitely no probable cause to justify molesting children whose parents don't want them irradiated.

nubian 16y ago

The government has decided that the "border" extends 100 miles inland from official land/sea borders. This apparently covers 2/3rds to 4/5ths of the U.S. population. Coverage on the 100-mile-thick ACLU-dubbed "Constitution-Free Zone": Wired: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/aclu-assails-10/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/aclu-assails-10/ Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/10/aclu-23-of-us-population-lives-in-constitution-free-zone.ars http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/10/aclu-23-of-us-p... (Note the entire land area of the Hawaiian islands are covered, as is the entire state of Florida.) I think it's probably even worse than that, though, because International airports count as "borders" no matter how far inland. So I would not be surprised to see this extended to a 100-mile radius of all international airports as well, which would cover almost everybody.

_delirium 16y ago
I remember being pretty surprised by this when I was a kid, and we had to stop at a checkpoint on I-10 in West Texas, where it turns away from the Mexican border (eastbound) to head into central Texas. I recall thinking that it must be some sort of emergency, like they were looking for an escaped criminal or something, because surely those kinds of checkpoints aren't allowed in a free country in routine circumstances?
smackfu 16y ago
This case was actually at the border though, which no one would dispute falls under the specific Constitutional item.

Tamerlin 16y ago

Note the "probable cause" part. The TSA doesn't have probably cause for most of its harassment, and there is definitely no probable cause to justify molesting children whose parents don't want them irradiated.