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Wow Cloudflare just continues to do big things over and over, I'm continually impressed by the amount of stuff they churn out. Sort of shocking Amazon or Micro

Wow Cloudflare just continues to do big things over and over, I'm continually impressed by the amount of stuff they churn out. Sort of shocking Amazon or Microsoft have not yet acquired them given where the markets seem to be going

ilovecaching 8y ago
They blog a lot, yes, but CF is a CDN. It doesn’t matter how fancy the technology is if they have less pops or poor targeting. CF blog is a marketing tool, and a lot of their claims are inflated or are capturing a hype train.
- aboutruby 8y ago
  > Cloudflare provides DNS services to 12 million websites, adding approximately 20,000 new customers every day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare > Roughly five percent to 10 percent of web traffic now goes through CloudFlare https://www.wired.com/story/cloudflare-spectrum-iot-protection/ https://www.wired.com/story/cloudflare-spectrum-iot-protecti... (April 2018) > 10 trillion requests per month, which is nearly 10 percent of all Internet requests for more than 2.5 billion people worldwide https://www.cloudflare.com/press-releases/2017/cloudflare-grows-enterprise-business-more-than-80-percent-year-over-year-amid-significant-product-rollouts/ https://www.cloudflare.com/press-releases/2017/cloudflare-gr... (2017)
  - ilovecaching 8y ago
    Do you know how many pops CF has compared to Akamai?
    - Godel_unicode 8y ago
      Number of PoPs would be a pretty weak metric for a CDN, even if that's all they were.
      - ilovecaching 8y ago
        Number of pops is of course critical to a CDN both in providing more availability in a more diverse set of locations, but also in terms of providing a larger backbone and more capacity to protect again attacks and spikes.
    - aboutruby 8y ago
      165 data centers: https://www.cloudflare.com/network/ https://www.cloudflare.com/network/
  - ilovecaching 8y ago
    Also CF uses anycast geolocation, which is the easy fast way to market, but not nearly as reliable or controllable. You just start buying some colo and let the internet do its thing, and be at the mercy of their peers. Most bigger CDNs and content providers don’t do this for that reason.
    - zackbloom 8y ago
      Do you work for one of those other CDN providers by chance? It certainly takes a fair bit of work to get an anycast network working, but it's not nearly the controversial move it was eight years ago.
    - eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
      Have you ever setup and maintained anycast? I have, it’s far from “easy.”
- steveklabnik 8y ago
  This product introduces compute, making them a bit more than a pure CDN. They’re also doing a lot with Rust, which I know you love, incidentally.

ilovecaching 8y ago

They blog a lot, yes, but CF is a CDN. It doesn’t matter how fancy the technology is if they have less pops or poor targeting. CF blog is a marketing tool, and a lot of their claims are inflated or are capturing a hype train.

aboutruby 8y ago
> Cloudflare provides DNS services to 12 million websites, adding approximately 20,000 new customers every day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare > Roughly five percent to 10 percent of web traffic now goes through CloudFlare https://www.wired.com/story/cloudflare-spectrum-iot-protection/ https://www.wired.com/story/cloudflare-spectrum-iot-protecti... (April 2018) > 10 trillion requests per month, which is nearly 10 percent of all Internet requests for more than 2.5 billion people worldwide https://www.cloudflare.com/press-releases/2017/cloudflare-grows-enterprise-business-more-than-80-percent-year-over-year-amid-significant-product-rollouts/ https://www.cloudflare.com/press-releases/2017/cloudflare-gr... (2017)
- ilovecaching 8y ago
  Do you know how many pops CF has compared to Akamai?
  - Godel_unicode 8y ago
    Number of PoPs would be a pretty weak metric for a CDN, even if that's all they were.
    - ilovecaching 8y ago
      Number of pops is of course critical to a CDN both in providing more availability in a more diverse set of locations, but also in terms of providing a larger backbone and more capacity to protect again attacks and spikes.
  - aboutruby 8y ago
    165 data centers: https://www.cloudflare.com/network/ https://www.cloudflare.com/network/
- ilovecaching 8y ago
  Also CF uses anycast geolocation, which is the easy fast way to market, but not nearly as reliable or controllable. You just start buying some colo and let the internet do its thing, and be at the mercy of their peers. Most bigger CDNs and content providers don’t do this for that reason.
  - zackbloom 8y ago
    Do you work for one of those other CDN providers by chance? It certainly takes a fair bit of work to get an anycast network working, but it's not nearly the controversial move it was eight years ago.
  - eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
    Have you ever setup and maintained anycast? I have, it’s far from “easy.”
steveklabnik 8y ago
This product introduces compute, making them a bit more than a pure CDN. They’re also doing a lot with Rust, which I know you love, incidentally.