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In an employment "at will" state(Oregon is one), there really is no such thing as a set amount of days. You could get 15 days off and be fired for taking 4 days
by kokokokoko 8y ago
In an employment "at will" state(Oregon is one), there really is no such thing as a set amount of days. You could get 15 days off and be fired for taking 4 days off in the year.
So even if you have a set number of days, your manager can still fire you for taking them. Your manager can fire you or not fire you for any reason. So you could take 30 days off and not get fired if your manager doesn't want to.
With "at will" employment there really aren't any concrete rules in play. Everything is just at the discretion of the employer. Regardless of the employee handbook, PTO or really anything. You could be fired for coming in too early. Coming in too late. Not working on the weekends. Working on the weekends. Probably even something as silly as gaining too much weight. Really anything unless it is within a few specific protected classes such as race or sex.
The only variable that exists is whether or not the terminated employee would qualify for unemployment benefits.
Edit: I should mention this is US specific as most US states have "at will" employment laws.
- rhizome 8y agoYou could get 15 days off and be fired for taking 4 days off in the year For doing something that is specified in the employment agreement? Pretty sure that would fall under fraud/misrepresentation.
- kokokokoko 8y agoAbsolutely not. I would encourage you to look into "at will" employment law in the US. The employee may have a case for receiving unemployment benefits in that situation, but it is completely within the legal rights of the employer to do that in the US if the state has employment "at will".
- sgc 8y agoIt would be stupid though. They are better just firing for no reason.
- rhizome 8y agoI would encourage you to look into "at will" employment law in the US What makes you think I haven't, are you saying that there is no fraud exception? You don't go into any detail to support your "absolute" confidence.
- CalRobert 8y agoSure, but my point was that guidelines to expected pto help to make it clear what would be generally ok or not. Also unlimited pto means no cash out if indeed you are fired.