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> If you post a note regarding a health issue here, you will get advice, likely involving keto nowadays. Does this mean this behavior should be considered acc

> If you post a note regarding a health issue here, you will get advice, likely involving keto nowadays. Does this mean this behavior should be considered acceptable, or that criticizing such behavior should be considered above criticism? > is a lot of weight to expect a random techy internet forum thread to bear, It is also weight to engage in it by providing unsolicited advice. By choosing to engage with the heavy subject, people can choose to engage with their engagement. This is normal human interaction regardless of its weight. > it clearly risks frustration, right? Is that for you to decide? I like to believe Shakna is intelligent enough to choose to engage in what they please, even if they are frustrated by it. It isn't my place to judge or advise them, and I'm frankly entirely uninterested in engaging with them about how frustrated they're allowed to get. I'm more interested in engaging with you about how much you should get to tell Shakna how they should react while reacting yourself.

nate_meurer 8y ago
> criticizing such behavior should be considered above criticism? Certainly not! It's critical that criticism not be criticized, however I assure you that your overly critical appraisal of my criticism will not be left uncritiqued. By me, right now. > It is also weight to engage in it by providing unsolicited advice. No it's not. That's the whole point. There's nothing weighty about Internet User Steve's unsolicited two cents. Shakna can take it or leave it. Or, he can complain about it, tell Steve he was wrong to open his mouth, and then meet the inevitable pushback with disgusted indignance while two other frisky threadmates get all meta in the corner. Personally, I'm left none the wiser for having witnessed Shakna's precipitated grievances, whereas I feel it would be a bit of a shame if Steve was made to curtail his freewheeling expression, which in this case included a link to a horrifying story about the NEJM (thanks for that BTW Steve). > I'm frankly entirely uninterested in engaging with them about how frustrated they're allowed to get. You're right, that would be bad! So don't do that. Instead, gently encourage Shakna to cut poor Steve a bit of slack. You can, without judgment, point out that Shakna's reflexes, gained through years of pain and frustration, are maybe not a productive criteria by which to interact with well-meaning random internet folk, and that some extra persistence in grace, instead of descending into remonstrance after a just one exchange, is far likelier to win converts to Shakna's way of thinking. Go ahead, try it. Let me know how it works out.

nate_meurer 8y ago

> criticizing such behavior should be considered above criticism? Certainly not! It's critical that criticism not be criticized, however I assure you that your overly critical appraisal of my criticism will not be left uncritiqued. By me, right now. > It is also weight to engage in it by providing unsolicited advice. No it's not. That's the whole point. There's nothing weighty about Internet User Steve's unsolicited two cents. Shakna can take it or leave it. Or, he can complain about it, tell Steve he was wrong to open his mouth, and then meet the inevitable pushback with disgusted indignance while two other frisky threadmates get all meta in the corner. Personally, I'm left none the wiser for having witnessed Shakna's precipitated grievances, whereas I feel it would be a bit of a shame if Steve was made to curtail his freewheeling expression, which in this case included a link to a horrifying story about the NEJM (thanks for that BTW Steve). > I'm frankly entirely uninterested in engaging with them about how frustrated they're allowed to get. You're right, that would be bad! So don't do that. Instead, gently encourage Shakna to cut poor Steve a bit of slack. You can, without judgment, point out that Shakna's reflexes, gained through years of pain and frustration, are maybe not a productive criteria by which to interact with well-meaning random internet folk, and that some extra persistence in grace, instead of descending into remonstrance after a just one exchange, is far likelier to win converts to Shakna's way of thinking. Go ahead, try it. Let me know how it works out.