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Bernie Sanders Is Running for President Again

32 points by jules-jules 8y ago

IWeldMelons 8y ago
Yeah, well, he is too old now.
- jules-jules 8y ago
  I rather focus on ideas, not age.
- headShrinker 8y ago
  Age has little to do with a serious discussion about a viable president unless pragmatism is your centeral criterion. Clinton was the pragmatic choice... she lost. Warren and trump are old, Clinton was old. The central criteria for choosing a president should be their choices and moral compass, a strong voice and leader, the ability to turn a movement toward generating money for the candidate and a finger on the pulse of what’s actually going on.
  - jraines 8y ago
    It has a lot to do with the discussion when the average lifespan of a U.S. male is 79 and people generally vote for Presidents, not VPs. It also has a lot to do with it when the current 72 year old President shows -- at the very least, arguable -- signs of cognitive decline, and the oldest President ever also showed similar signs towards the end of his term. There are exceptions, but these cases are representative of the typical case, not the exceptional case [1] Stress is a factor in the above. Nuclear weapon deployment (not even war) remains one of the greatest threats to civilization and would likely impact another (climate change). The U.S. President must be able to make a fast & sharp decision on this matter should the need arise (though I have to say, Bernie seems likely to make the right choice, which is always "do not launch") [1] “…most abilities tend to peak in early midlife, plateau until the late fifties or sixties, and then show decline, initially at a slow pace, but accelerating as the late seventies are reached.” (Schaie, 1989).
    - headShrinker 8y ago
      I trust Sander’s political positions over all other candidates, and if we get a good three years of Bernie and 1 year of his choice of VP, I’m ok with that. He’s clear and right about most issues and he’s right that climate change is the number 1 issue and he’s the only one saying that.
    - c0nducktr 8y ago
      What's the average life span for someone who's already made it to 77?
  - IWeldMelons 8y ago
    If he or she dies while in the office, none of the goals would be achieved. I am not even talking about the mainstream media, which would tear the old man apart, because of his age. It is not like I am discoaraging you to vote for Bernie, but it is that he is not gonna win, period. So you need to chose the closest to Bernie and vote.
erokar 8y ago
He's 77 years old and looks and acts it. Ocasio-Cortez should be running for president.
- jules-jules 8y ago
  Look at how everyone is complaining about Pelosi being "too old". It's a totally disingenuous argument. No one cares about his age, they just don't like his agenda. Donald Trump is 72 (too old?) Joe Biden, 75. (so he's out, too) Nelson Mandela was 77 when he was inaugurated. So he was too old as well?
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  You have to be 35 to run for President or Vice President. AOC has no political experience yet, why would I vote for her? Disclaimer: Sanders supporter
- praneshp 8y ago
  "neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States." You should read the Constitution.
- towaway1138 8y ago
  She's probably the only other candidate that Trump could possibly win against. Will the Dems really go for a repeat?
- Antoninus 8y ago
  "Age is no guarantee of efficiency / Youth is no guarantee of innovation"
viivaux 8y ago
Did we ever find out what the "leverage" on Bernie referred to in the Podesta emails was about?
shortform 8y ago
tl;dr: - Bernie Sanders announced today he plans to run for President in 2020 - in 2016, he ran on a platform against corporate greed, economic inequality, and national healthcare. - while these points were fresh in 2016, they've been adopted by his competition: other 2020 Democratic contenders like Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren. - Sanders has also been besmirched by reports of gender discrimination and sexual harassment in his 2016 campaign - still, Sanders has perhaps the largest network of any Democrat contender == This tl;dr was brought to you by Shortform, an upcoming product summarizing the best content in books and articles. Check it out at https://www.shortform.io https://www.shortform.io

32 points by jules-jules 8y ago

IWeldMelons 8y ago

Yeah, well, he is too old now.

jules-jules 8y ago
I rather focus on ideas, not age.
headShrinker 8y ago
Age has little to do with a serious discussion about a viable president unless pragmatism is your centeral criterion. Clinton was the pragmatic choice... she lost. Warren and trump are old, Clinton was old. The central criteria for choosing a president should be their choices and moral compass, a strong voice and leader, the ability to turn a movement toward generating money for the candidate and a finger on the pulse of what’s actually going on.
- jraines 8y ago
  It has a lot to do with the discussion when the average lifespan of a U.S. male is 79 and people generally vote for Presidents, not VPs. It also has a lot to do with it when the current 72 year old President shows -- at the very least, arguable -- signs of cognitive decline, and the oldest President ever also showed similar signs towards the end of his term. There are exceptions, but these cases are representative of the typical case, not the exceptional case [1] Stress is a factor in the above. Nuclear weapon deployment (not even war) remains one of the greatest threats to civilization and would likely impact another (climate change). The U.S. President must be able to make a fast & sharp decision on this matter should the need arise (though I have to say, Bernie seems likely to make the right choice, which is always "do not launch") [1] “…most abilities tend to peak in early midlife, plateau until the late fifties or sixties, and then show decline, initially at a slow pace, but accelerating as the late seventies are reached.” (Schaie, 1989).
  - headShrinker 8y ago
    I trust Sander’s political positions over all other candidates, and if we get a good three years of Bernie and 1 year of his choice of VP, I’m ok with that. He’s clear and right about most issues and he’s right that climate change is the number 1 issue and he’s the only one saying that.
  - c0nducktr 8y ago
    What's the average life span for someone who's already made it to 77?
- IWeldMelons 8y ago
  If he or she dies while in the office, none of the goals would be achieved. I am not even talking about the mainstream media, which would tear the old man apart, because of his age. It is not like I am discoaraging you to vote for Bernie, but it is that he is not gonna win, period. So you need to chose the closest to Bernie and vote.

erokar 8y ago

He's 77 years old and looks and acts it. Ocasio-Cortez should be running for president.

jules-jules 8y ago
Look at how everyone is complaining about Pelosi being "too old". It's a totally disingenuous argument. No one cares about his age, they just don't like his agenda. Donald Trump is 72 (too old?) Joe Biden, 75. (so he's out, too) Nelson Mandela was 77 when he was inaugurated. So he was too old as well?
toomuchtodo 8y ago
You have to be 35 to run for President or Vice President. AOC has no political experience yet, why would I vote for her? Disclaimer: Sanders supporter
praneshp 8y ago
"neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States." You should read the Constitution.
towaway1138 8y ago
She's probably the only other candidate that Trump could possibly win against. Will the Dems really go for a repeat?
Antoninus 8y ago
"Age is no guarantee of efficiency / Youth is no guarantee of innovation"

viivaux 8y ago

Did we ever find out what the "leverage" on Bernie referred to in the Podesta emails was about?

shortform 8y ago

tl;dr: - Bernie Sanders announced today he plans to run for President in 2020 - in 2016, he ran on a platform against corporate greed, economic inequality, and national healthcare. - while these points were fresh in 2016, they've been adopted by his competition: other 2020 Democratic contenders like Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren. - Sanders has also been besmirched by reports of gender discrimination and sexual harassment in his 2016 campaign - still, Sanders has perhaps the largest network of any Democrat contender == This tl;dr was brought to you by Shortform, an upcoming product summarizing the best content in books and articles. Check it out at https://www.shortform.io https://www.shortform.io