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China has people no longer willing to pay for iPhones. Everywhere else it's not changed much year on year. There was great demand for stock buybacks, Apple res

China has people no longer willing to pay for iPhones. Everywhere else it's not changed much year on year. There was great demand for stock buybacks, Apple resisted for a while. I'm surprised to hear a need for 512GB storage, I'd be interested to know how that's used. The upgrade to XS is only minor from the X according to the reviews I've seen/seen summarised. A yearly upgrade isn't common, isn't their target.

wyclif 8y ago
And India. And the Philippines. And loads of other developing countries. Meanwhile, Apple killed the best price/value iPhone they offered, the SE. I just don't understand Apple's current product direction.
- dwaite 8y ago
  People are buying phones less often, so Apple is trying to increase the value (and subsequent price) of new phone models to encourage upgrades and to capture more money when people do upgrade (either because third party apps now run slow on the older hardware, or their old phone broke). People don't stop buying gas when the price of gas goes up. They just conserve and figure out how to make it fit into their budget. Also, Apple isn't (and has never) been trying to target the highest end phones at developing markets. They'll target those markets with the iPhone 6 and 6s.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    That did not went well in the mid-90's if it weren't for the inverse acquision of NeXT.
StreamBright 8y ago
>> I'm surprised to hear a need for 512GB storage How should I store my lossless audio files then? I have a 6s and I am continuously having issues with space but I won't give up the jack port and nothing can change that. HiFi audio needs additional 10 years before it becomes viable on wireless (battery times, quality, etc.).
- saiya-jin 8y ago
  Well you most probably don't need all of that collection in your phone. Phones are generally lousy primary storage for, well anything including photos and music. Easy to lose, drown or destroy. You also most probably wouldn't hear the difference between high bitrate mp3 and flac, unless you are genetically gifted with superior hearing and use expensive headphones on top of that. But I guess its easier to shell tons of money and complain later rather than work a bit on managing your music collection/expectations.
  - paublyrne 8y ago
    I imagine it's not the primary storage for OP, but syncs from the library on Mac, which is probably has a backup strategy itself. As commenter above noted, you probably don't need lossless audio on your portable device if you only listen through earbuds, but if you use connect it to some good speakers or high quality headphones, then why shouldn't you be able to? As for the quality difference in general, I ripped my own CD collection at lossless quality many years ago because given the choice of the same quality or worse quality that I may or may not be able to discern, it's seemed more logical to take the former. The lost data would never have been recoverable later.
    - StreamBright 8y ago
      Exactly this. I don't understand why people are giving up on quality and bend over for guys like Tim Cook who push down worse quality products consistently. They need to realise that wireless audio is just not there for all the use cases (leave the jack alone) and instead of faster processors we need bigger storage.
  - StreamBright 8y ago
    I have my primary storage on my laptop (+ secondary backups). I sync music from my laptop to my phone. you are suggesting I should convert the music to lower quality because most people cannot distinguish between lossless and mp3? I should compromise because companies refuse to deliver what I want and what I would pay for? That is the really lousy argument. Btw. you do not need to be genetically gifted to hear the difference. Also you do not need an _expensive_ headphone you need one with great sound quality. There are plenty of hifi headphones with reasonable pricing.
C1sc0cat 8y ago
I am sure the brokers who arrange the buy backs love them - all that nice $ Personally id rather have the dividend myself - that's real cash in my account not some vague if we spend x billion the share price might go up.
- tobylane 8y ago
  They did that too. >Apple said Tuesday it has returned $275 billion in total capital to shareholders since 2012. ... Apple said it would be increasing dividends 16 percent to 73 cents per share. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/apple-buybacks-q2-2018.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/apple-buybacks-q2-2018.html
  - C1sc0cat 8y ago
    The lead in that article is "plan to return $100 billion to shareholders in a massive stock buyback," Id rather have my share of that $100 Billion that as a special dividend - than some woo woo share buyback.
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wyclif 8y ago

And India. And the Philippines. And loads of other developing countries. Meanwhile, Apple killed the best price/value iPhone they offered, the SE. I just don't understand Apple's current product direction.

dwaite 8y ago
People are buying phones less often, so Apple is trying to increase the value (and subsequent price) of new phone models to encourage upgrades and to capture more money when people do upgrade (either because third party apps now run slow on the older hardware, or their old phone broke). People don't stop buying gas when the price of gas goes up. They just conserve and figure out how to make it fit into their budget. Also, Apple isn't (and has never) been trying to target the highest end phones at developing markets. They'll target those markets with the iPhone 6 and 6s.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  That did not went well in the mid-90's if it weren't for the inverse acquision of NeXT.

StreamBright 8y ago

>> I'm surprised to hear a need for 512GB storage How should I store my lossless audio files then? I have a 6s and I am continuously having issues with space but I won't give up the jack port and nothing can change that. HiFi audio needs additional 10 years before it becomes viable on wireless (battery times, quality, etc.).

saiya-jin 8y ago
Well you most probably don't need all of that collection in your phone. Phones are generally lousy primary storage for, well anything including photos and music. Easy to lose, drown or destroy. You also most probably wouldn't hear the difference between high bitrate mp3 and flac, unless you are genetically gifted with superior hearing and use expensive headphones on top of that. But I guess its easier to shell tons of money and complain later rather than work a bit on managing your music collection/expectations.
- paublyrne 8y ago
  I imagine it's not the primary storage for OP, but syncs from the library on Mac, which is probably has a backup strategy itself. As commenter above noted, you probably don't need lossless audio on your portable device if you only listen through earbuds, but if you use connect it to some good speakers or high quality headphones, then why shouldn't you be able to? As for the quality difference in general, I ripped my own CD collection at lossless quality many years ago because given the choice of the same quality or worse quality that I may or may not be able to discern, it's seemed more logical to take the former. The lost data would never have been recoverable later.
  - StreamBright 8y ago
    Exactly this. I don't understand why people are giving up on quality and bend over for guys like Tim Cook who push down worse quality products consistently. They need to realise that wireless audio is just not there for all the use cases (leave the jack alone) and instead of faster processors we need bigger storage.
- StreamBright 8y ago
  I have my primary storage on my laptop (+ secondary backups). I sync music from my laptop to my phone. you are suggesting I should convert the music to lower quality because most people cannot distinguish between lossless and mp3? I should compromise because companies refuse to deliver what I want and what I would pay for? That is the really lousy argument. Btw. you do not need to be genetically gifted to hear the difference. Also you do not need an _expensive_ headphone you need one with great sound quality. There are plenty of hifi headphones with reasonable pricing.

C1sc0cat 8y ago

I am sure the brokers who arrange the buy backs love them - all that nice $ Personally id rather have the dividend myself - that's real cash in my account not some vague if we spend x billion the share price might go up.

tobylane 8y ago
They did that too. >Apple said Tuesday it has returned $275 billion in total capital to shareholders since 2012. ... Apple said it would be increasing dividends 16 percent to 73 cents per share. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/apple-buybacks-q2-2018.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/apple-buybacks-q2-2018.html
- C1sc0cat 8y ago
  The lead in that article is "plan to return $100 billion to shareholders in a massive stock buyback," Id rather have my share of that $100 Billion that as a special dividend - than some woo woo share buyback.
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