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I never get the point of these things. This is like saying a Raspberry Pi hooked up to your home router is cheaper, why bother buying Gmail for your company. O

I never get the point of these things. This is like saying a Raspberry Pi hooked up to your home router is cheaper, why bother buying Gmail for your company. Or like saying that if you spend 20 hours every day in an Uber buying a car would be cheaper over 3 year term. Nobody is disputing that buying similarly specced hardware on the market is likely to have a cheaper TCO, the point of cloud providers is that also have a bunch of stuff attached to the servers, which turns to be pretty important.

hughesjo 8y ago
Most HN devs downvoting here never worked on real scalable systems to even understand what you are talking about, tbf
- dang 8y ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantive (and in this case, supercilious) comments to Hacker News? If you know more, it would be really good for you to share some of what you know, so that we can all learn something. If you don't want to take the time to do that, that's fine, but in that case please don't post. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- vidarh 8y ago
  Because the vast majority of systems never need that scale. In other words: while it's an interesting niche situation, to most people how to handle small static workloads is much closer to what is actually relevant to them.
bubblethink 8y ago
The point is that GPU instances are different. The usecases like ML training or general HPC are sufficiently isolated from the rest of your stuff that you don't really need all the bells and whistles that aws has. If you want to host a niche gpu database like production system, you may get more out of aws's ecosystem, but even then, the cost difference is huge.
dwild 8y ago
> This is like saying a Raspberry Pi hooked up to your home router is cheaper, why bother buying Gmail for your company. Where do I get GMAIL for my Raspberry Pi? If you order that Lambda server, you get the same good Linux interface you'll get over AWS. In fact they actually seems to offer some kind of software package that you wouldn't get over AWS. Sure AWS has value-added, but in this case, it's mostly being able to not being billed for unused hours (what we call scalability), which for many is certainly worthwhile, but that's all. Is there anything I'm missing that AWS offer? > if you spend 20 hours every day in an Uber buying a car would be cheaper over 3 year term. Isn't that the case? I failed to see what's wrong in that sentence. I don't own a car, I subscribe to a service similar to Car2Go, I'm at about 150$ a month right now. Sure there's value added there, but owning one also has value added, just different ones and at one point it will be more worthwhile to own one.

hughesjo 8y ago

Most HN devs downvoting here never worked on real scalable systems to even understand what you are talking about, tbf

dang 8y ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive (and in this case, supercilious) comments to Hacker News? If you know more, it would be really good for you to share some of what you know, so that we can all learn something. If you don't want to take the time to do that, that's fine, but in that case please don't post. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
vidarh 8y ago
Because the vast majority of systems never need that scale. In other words: while it's an interesting niche situation, to most people how to handle small static workloads is much closer to what is actually relevant to them.

bubblethink 8y ago

The point is that GPU instances are different. The usecases like ML training or general HPC are sufficiently isolated from the rest of your stuff that you don't really need all the bells and whistles that aws has. If you want to host a niche gpu database like production system, you may get more out of aws's ecosystem, but even then, the cost difference is huge.

dwild 8y ago

> This is like saying a Raspberry Pi hooked up to your home router is cheaper, why bother buying Gmail for your company. Where do I get GMAIL for my Raspberry Pi? If you order that Lambda server, you get the same good Linux interface you'll get over AWS. In fact they actually seems to offer some kind of software package that you wouldn't get over AWS. Sure AWS has value-added, but in this case, it's mostly being able to not being billed for unused hours (what we call scalability), which for many is certainly worthwhile, but that's all. Is there anything I'm missing that AWS offer? > if you spend 20 hours every day in an Uber buying a car would be cheaper over 3 year term. Isn't that the case? I failed to see what's wrong in that sentence. I don't own a car, I subscribe to a service similar to Car2Go, I'm at about 150$ a month right now. Sure there's value added there, but owning one also has value added, just different ones and at one point it will be more worthwhile to own one.