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I can see this sentence being an interesting Rorschach test. Either you think it’s quite sensible or utterly absurd. My own brain was even flip-flopping around

by arrrg 8y ago

I can see this sentence being an interesting Rorschach test. Either you think it’s quite sensible or utterly absurd. My own brain was even flip-flopping around for a bit before coming down on the utterly absurd side. I think the maybe reasonable counter-argument against your sentence would be that while you personally do not have to value something like raising kids above your work, others very well might and do and there is nothing absurd or weird about that. Your framing betrays a certain kind of worldview where “work” is real and everything else is a mere hobby, a worldview that might be valid for certain people but is certainly not universal.

whatshisface 8y ago
If work is everything, shouldn't we set aside some time to raise the next generation of workers? Working all the time is so defeating it even defeats the amount of work being done 30 years from now.
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > If work is everything, shouldn't we set aside some time to raise the next generation of workers? I don't think work per se is everything. But working on world-changing things is. At least concerning the situation in Germany, where there is compulsary school with a compulsary curriculum (vulgo: 18-19 years of brainwashing), I am working a lot time in the evening on an alternative curriculum (currently focusing on computer science topics since this is something I am hopefully knowledgable about) that enables people to deprogram themselves from this kind of brainwashing to enable them to develop their intellectual potential so that they can begin to work on world-changing things. A lot of highly gifted people already asked me multiple times when they can finally read the first text of my planned series (they are really eager for it) - unluckily there is still so much to do even on the first text. So the first thing that we should solve is to prepare a curriculum that does not completely brainwash our children. Only when this problem is solved, we can begin to think about how we can set aside some time for them.
  - 420codebro 8y ago
    You won’t change the world. Best case you’ll be vaguely known for a dead front-end tech in 20 years.
sershe 8y ago
The gp actually just said what it said; in response to "They have kids. Developing a sentient being is a higher priority", that probably means "raising kids is just another hobby" - not a judgment of whether hobbies or a job should take priority. I.e. that him saying "developing a sentient being has higher priority..." is about the same as someone else saying "my creative hat-making has higher priority...". Sure, that may be true for many people. But given two otherwise roughly equivalent candidates with W>L and L>W priorities, why would a company choose the latter?

by arrrg 8y ago

whatshisface 8y ago

If work is everything, shouldn't we set aside some time to raise the next generation of workers? Working all the time is so defeating it even defeats the amount of work being done 30 years from now.

wolfgke 8y ago
> If work is everything, shouldn't we set aside some time to raise the next generation of workers? I don't think work per se is everything. But working on world-changing things is. At least concerning the situation in Germany, where there is compulsary school with a compulsary curriculum (vulgo: 18-19 years of brainwashing), I am working a lot time in the evening on an alternative curriculum (currently focusing on computer science topics since this is something I am hopefully knowledgable about) that enables people to deprogram themselves from this kind of brainwashing to enable them to develop their intellectual potential so that they can begin to work on world-changing things. A lot of highly gifted people already asked me multiple times when they can finally read the first text of my planned series (they are really eager for it) - unluckily there is still so much to do even on the first text. So the first thing that we should solve is to prepare a curriculum that does not completely brainwash our children. Only when this problem is solved, we can begin to think about how we can set aside some time for them.
- 420codebro 8y ago
  You won’t change the world. Best case you’ll be vaguely known for a dead front-end tech in 20 years.

sershe 8y ago

The gp actually just said what it said; in response to "They have kids. Developing a sentient being is a higher priority", that probably means "raising kids is just another hobby" - not a judgment of whether hobbies or a job should take priority. I.e. that him saying "developing a sentient being has higher priority..." is about the same as someone else saying "my creative hat-making has higher priority...". Sure, that may be true for many people. But given two otherwise roughly equivalent candidates with W>L and L>W priorities, why would a company choose the latter?