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They aren't abused in C#, Java, Haskell, OCaml and other languages. Honestly, picking C++ as an example of traditional generic usage is a bit disingenuous.

spion 8y ago
I would suggest a Go programmer give ReasonML an honest try (as an example language where "generics" are done right), but the getting started / documentation situation is still not at Golang level so thats a bit annoying. Maybe F# would be a better choice. .NET Core and its tooling are pretty well done. C# and NET Core would be another nice alternative.
- latronic_notron 8y ago
  Agreed. I find C# and F# surprisingly refreshing. ReasonML is a bit unfinished, but it's a sign of great things to come.
Gibbon1 8y ago
I think generics in C# are really well executed and solve a lot of problems in C#'s problem domain. I do think you're on the right track that go's designers are pushing back hard on what they see as feature abuse in C++ and Java. C++ abuses templates and has dozens of ways to do anything that also don't interact with each other well. Java abuses inheritance, abstractions, and OOP. go uses generics under the hood, probably the designers fear that generic's will also get abused if released into the wild. On the other hand I've never heard anyone bitch about well designed generics in other languages. Which is a tell since people will bitch about anything and everything.
- latronic_notron 8y ago
  > I do think you're on the right track that go's designers are pushing back hard on what they see as feature abuse in C++ and Java Now that you mention it, I can't really blame them! > On the other hand I've never heard anyone bitch about well designed generics in other languages. Which is a tell since people will bitch about anything and everything. That's my opinion as well. Generics are quite pleasant, simple and a great tool to have when they're well designed.

spion 8y ago

I would suggest a Go programmer give ReasonML an honest try (as an example language where "generics" are done right), but the getting started / documentation situation is still not at Golang level so thats a bit annoying. Maybe F# would be a better choice. .NET Core and its tooling are pretty well done. C# and NET Core would be another nice alternative.

latronic_notron 8y ago
Agreed. I find C# and F# surprisingly refreshing. ReasonML is a bit unfinished, but it's a sign of great things to come.

Gibbon1 8y ago

I think generics in C# are really well executed and solve a lot of problems in C#'s problem domain. I do think you're on the right track that go's designers are pushing back hard on what they see as feature abuse in C++ and Java. C++ abuses templates and has dozens of ways to do anything that also don't interact with each other well. Java abuses inheritance, abstractions, and OOP. go uses generics under the hood, probably the designers fear that generic's will also get abused if released into the wild. On the other hand I've never heard anyone bitch about well designed generics in other languages. Which is a tell since people will bitch about anything and everything.

latronic_notron 8y ago
> I do think you're on the right track that go's designers are pushing back hard on what they see as feature abuse in C++ and Java Now that you mention it, I can't really blame them! > On the other hand I've never heard anyone bitch about well designed generics in other languages. Which is a tell since people will bitch about anything and everything. That's my opinion as well. Generics are quite pleasant, simple and a great tool to have when they're well designed.