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What this says of course is that software vendors and security vendors are not able to or not incentivized enough protect their users, to the point the governme

What this says of course is that software vendors and security vendors are not able to or not incentivized enough protect their users, to the point the government needs to become more involved. The biggest issue I see with almost all security software is that they have no idea what should or shouldn’t happen and the just punt to the user asking them to be a SME on the right behavior, and with enterprise software that’s so complex there’s no way to know if the millions of settings are what the business really intended, and very little software even allows you to express intentions beyond a low level allow deny rule. Google docs is a little better in that they talk in terms of what you’d do with a doc, but very little software is even at that basic level.

cced 8y ago
Can you expand on Google’s approach to “allowing users to do X with a Doc” ?
- argd678 8y ago
  They allow for high level intentions like “only share this doc within my company”, or “share only with specific people”. Connecting the permissions to the way someone thinks about it, going more in this direction is what’s lacking IMO.
microcolonel 8y ago
> What this says of course is that software vendors and security vendors are not able to or not incentivized enough protect their users, to the point the government needs to become more involved. I think it says something more specific to Japan than that. If you go on Shodan or do your own scans and compare Japan to other technologically advanced nations, you'll find a hell of a lot more random internet-exposed IP cameras, printers, etc. Do a quick search for the Server response header from a Brother printer, and you'll see what I mean. The way that people use computers in Japan is very different from how people use them in the West. I suspect that the way the organizations are structured, and the way that crime works in Japan, are a likely source of this difference.

cced 8y ago

Can you expand on Google’s approach to “allowing users to do X with a Doc” ?

argd678 8y ago
They allow for high level intentions like “only share this doc within my company”, or “share only with specific people”. Connecting the permissions to the way someone thinks about it, going more in this direction is what’s lacking IMO.

microcolonel 8y ago

> What this says of course is that software vendors and security vendors are not able to or not incentivized enough protect their users, to the point the government needs to become more involved. I think it says something more specific to Japan than that. If you go on Shodan or do your own scans and compare Japan to other technologically advanced nations, you'll find a hell of a lot more random internet-exposed IP cameras, printers, etc. Do a quick search for the Server response header from a Brother printer, and you'll see what I mean. The way that people use computers in Japan is very different from how people use them in the West. I suspect that the way the organizations are structured, and the way that crime works in Japan, are a likely source of this difference.