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Is "hipster" a label you would like to apply to e.g. Russ Cox? Maybe the designers of Go have design goals that are different than what you have in mind. Maybe

Is "hipster" a label you would like to apply to e.g. Russ Cox? Maybe the designers of Go have design goals that are different than what you have in mind. Maybe they don't see it as "simplicity vs utility", but more as "utility through simplicity".

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andy_ppp 8y ago
"Hipster: A person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream." Yep. Go is a hipster language, even if you don't like it.
- jstimpfle 8y ago
  "The latest trends"? To me Go is particularly conservative. I don't feel like arguing over a word that has become essentially meaningless over time, but I think you have seriously misunderstood what hipster means or was once supposed to mean. Either that, or you don't really know about Go and are just judging it by its marketing's design aesthetics (Gopher, fonts etc. following a trendy googley style).
  - andy_ppp 8y ago
    Go is trendy and Go is outside of the mainstream in it's minimalist design choices. Are you trying to say that Go is not in fashion and has made mainstream language choices? I think you're just upset about the choice of the word hipster but as with all words it's a shortcut to actual meaning. It was intended with a hint of playfulness and not intended to make you feel bad, even if you don't agree with the choice of word.
    - jstimpfle 8y ago
      > Are you trying to say that Go is not in fashion and has made mainstream language choices? I can't even understand how you can be constructing such a statement. "In fashion" and "mainstream" are pretty synonymous to me. In consequence, the statement is contradictory. Hence, No, I am clearly not trying to say that. > I think you're just upset about the choice of the word hipster No I'm saying that the team behind Go is just really considerate and principled. They don't follow all the latest fads, simply because those fads are the reason why so many other languages suck and projects written in them become giant unmaintainable hairballs. They are engineers (label them conservative if you like). Not hipsters.

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andy_ppp 8y ago

"Hipster: A person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream." Yep. Go is a hipster language, even if you don't like it.

jstimpfle 8y ago
"The latest trends"? To me Go is particularly conservative. I don't feel like arguing over a word that has become essentially meaningless over time, but I think you have seriously misunderstood what hipster means or was once supposed to mean. Either that, or you don't really know about Go and are just judging it by its marketing's design aesthetics (Gopher, fonts etc. following a trendy googley style).
- andy_ppp 8y ago
  Go is trendy and Go is outside of the mainstream in it's minimalist design choices. Are you trying to say that Go is not in fashion and has made mainstream language choices? I think you're just upset about the choice of the word hipster but as with all words it's a shortcut to actual meaning. It was intended with a hint of playfulness and not intended to make you feel bad, even if you don't agree with the choice of word.
  - jstimpfle 8y ago
    > Are you trying to say that Go is not in fashion and has made mainstream language choices? I can't even understand how you can be constructing such a statement. "In fashion" and "mainstream" are pretty synonymous to me. In consequence, the statement is contradictory. Hence, No, I am clearly not trying to say that. > I think you're just upset about the choice of the word hipster No I'm saying that the team behind Go is just really considerate and principled. They don't follow all the latest fads, simply because those fads are the reason why so many other languages suck and projects written in them become giant unmaintainable hairballs. They are engineers (label them conservative if you like). Not hipsters.