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If we're not even going to flag completely false yet carefully crafted propaganda from hostile countries designed solely to wreck our democracy, then we are scr
by TomMckenny 8y ago
If we're not even going to flag completely false yet carefully crafted propaganda from hostile countries designed solely to wreck our democracy, then we are screwed.
And be aware that nations that censor aren't flagging a meme or two. They conspicuously hound reputable outlets and reporters into silence. And everyone living in such places knows it's happening.
They're not wringing thier hands wondering if holocaust denial is not ranked high enough by google, they talking worriedly about Maria Ressa being suddenly jailed etc.
- repolfx 8y agoYou have no idea if such propaganda even exists. Here is the UK culture minister today writing about the need to control the internet because of "disinformation" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/17/era-self-regulation-technology-companies-coming-end/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/17/era-self-reg... But he admits that there is no evidence any foreign power has tried to target the UK via disinformation in any way. And there is no real evidence that's been happening in the USA either. Those claims always fall apart when studied.
- pjc50 8y agoIt clearly does exist. Read the report carefully e.g. para 240: "the Government stated that, following the nerve agent attack in Salisbury in March 2018, the Government had “judged the Russian state promulgated at least 38 false disinformation narratives around this criminal act”.267 However, the Government made it clear that “it has not seen evidence of successful use of disinformation by foreign actors, including Russia, to influence UK democratic processes”.2 What is disputed is whether and how "successful" it was, which is almost impossible to ever be certain about.