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>"NYC didn't offer them anything of particularly great value that they couldn't get elsewhere." You mean like access to a very large and very skilled labor poo

>"NYC didn't offer them anything of particularly great value that they couldn't get elsewhere." You mean like access to a very large and very skilled labor pool? A 24 hour transit system, 3 major airports? 1 million square feet of available office like they were going to take in Citicorp tower that has a train stop at the bottom of the building? Sure.

jedberg 8y ago
Amazon doesn’t need a large local labor pool. They get far more applicants than they need and plenty of people willing to move to work there. There are lots of cities with empty office space. And in most cities parking isn’t a problem so the transit isn’t necessary. You gotta think like Amazon — most of those things weren’t huge benefits to them. They were benefits to their future employees but only in that city. The main things they are looking for are tax breaks and rapid development without a lot of red tape. NYC was proving that rapid development was out of the picture and so was the lack of red tape.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  >"Amazon doesn’t need a large local labor pool. They get far more applicants than they need and plenty of people willing to move to work there." Nonsense. It's far more efficient to be able to tap a local labor pool. Google, FB, et al set up shop in NYC for this ver And there are always people who don't want or can not relocate. Or who simply do not want to live in New York City. >"And in most cities parking isn’t a problem so the transit isn’t necessary" Please name just one top tier city where parking isn't a problem and mass transit isn't necessary.
  - jedberg 8y ago
    Dallas.
    - bogomipz 8y ago
      Sorry Dallas is not a "top tier" city. Not by any measure - population-wise, ethnic diversity, diversity of industry or culturally. Nobody sets up shop in Dallas as a selling point to attract the world's top talent.
pathseeker 8y ago
If any of those things truly mattered, Amazon wouldn't have walked away so quickly.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  Here let me invert that for you - If any of those things didn't matter Amazon would not have chosen NYC in the first place.
  - jedberg 8y ago
    They chose NYC because of the incentives offered. They didn’t care about the rest obviously. When the environment became hostile, the incentives were no longer worth it. So they left. If you don’t want to believe that then that’s fine. It’ll just happen again.

jedberg 8y ago

Amazon doesn’t need a large local labor pool. They get far more applicants than they need and plenty of people willing to move to work there. There are lots of cities with empty office space. And in most cities parking isn’t a problem so the transit isn’t necessary. You gotta think like Amazon — most of those things weren’t huge benefits to them. They were benefits to their future employees but only in that city. The main things they are looking for are tax breaks and rapid development without a lot of red tape. NYC was proving that rapid development was out of the picture and so was the lack of red tape.

bogomipz 8y ago
>"Amazon doesn’t need a large local labor pool. They get far more applicants than they need and plenty of people willing to move to work there." Nonsense. It's far more efficient to be able to tap a local labor pool. Google, FB, et al set up shop in NYC for this ver And there are always people who don't want or can not relocate. Or who simply do not want to live in New York City. >"And in most cities parking isn’t a problem so the transit isn’t necessary" Please name just one top tier city where parking isn't a problem and mass transit isn't necessary.
- jedberg 8y ago
  Dallas.
  - bogomipz 8y ago
    Sorry Dallas is not a "top tier" city. Not by any measure - population-wise, ethnic diversity, diversity of industry or culturally. Nobody sets up shop in Dallas as a selling point to attract the world's top talent.

pathseeker 8y ago

If any of those things truly mattered, Amazon wouldn't have walked away so quickly.

bogomipz 8y ago
Here let me invert that for you - If any of those things didn't matter Amazon would not have chosen NYC in the first place.
- jedberg 8y ago
  They chose NYC because of the incentives offered. They didn’t care about the rest obviously. When the environment became hostile, the incentives were no longer worth it. So they left. If you don’t want to believe that then that’s fine. It’ll just happen again.