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Why only 10.14 and up? most devs I know havent gone past 10.12.

zx2c4 8y ago
Details on 10.14 APIs are in this mailing list post: https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/003869.html https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/00...
tambourine_man 8y ago
Mojave has been a smooth sailing from day one for me. A few rendering issues from the move to Metal but no KPs or major incompatibilities. Sooner or later, things stop running. On the iOS side, I was surprised to learn you can’t run Netflix on an iOS 9 device. I think the days of hanging on to old system versions are over.
- scarface74 8y ago
  That’s surprising. Netflix works on the original iPad with iOS 5.
  - tambourine_man 8y ago
    But can you download it from the App Store or is it just running the old version? I couldn't.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      If you have downloaded it previously, it prompts you if you want to “download the last compatible version”. As long as you’ve downloaded it previously you can redownload it.
      - tambourine_man 8y ago
        Yeah, but if you haven’t, you are out of luck
        scarface74 8y ago
        You can download the app using an older version of iTunes. https://www.lifewire.com/download-apps-to-ipad-using-itunes-4103798 https://www.lifewire.com/download-apps-to-ipad-using-itunes-... Once it shows up as a previous purchase in your account, you can download it from your iPad. You don’t have to sync with iTunes.
        tambourine_man 8y ago
        Nice, thanks
- r00fus 8y ago
  Uh. I have an old iPad1 that can’t run iOS10 but runs Netflix fine. Have you tried updating the app?
  - tambourine_man 8y ago
    Can’t install it. Can’t be downloaded from the App Store. You probably downloaded the version that did some time ago and it just continued to run
- roblabla 8y ago
  Some of us with mac pros or hackintosh literally can't update to mojave, because of missing nvidia drivers. And high sierra was such a clusterfuck that I'm glad I missed out on it.
sxcurry 8y ago
Curious - how do devs develop on a 2.5 year old OS. Aren’t there risks that things won’t work in recent releases?
- jamesb93 8y ago
  We test with machines that have it, but we don't operate day to day on 10.14. It's more about offering backwards compatibility so the majority of users can benefit.
Fnoord 8y ago
Sierra (10.12) isn't supported for long: "Extended support ends in September 2019. iTunes, in August 2020" [1] And while High Sierra (10.13) had its quirks [for which I could understand your response, plus all non Retina only work with 10.13 as latest, officially), Mojave (10.14) has been smooth. If not only for the dark mode (finally!). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra

Details on 10.14 APIs are in this mailing list post: https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/003869.html https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/00...

tambourine_man 8y ago

Mojave has been a smooth sailing from day one for me. A few rendering issues from the move to Metal but no KPs or major incompatibilities. Sooner or later, things stop running. On the iOS side, I was surprised to learn you can’t run Netflix on an iOS 9 device. I think the days of hanging on to old system versions are over.

scarface74 8y ago
That’s surprising. Netflix works on the original iPad with iOS 5.
- tambourine_man 8y ago
  But can you download it from the App Store or is it just running the old version? I couldn't.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    If you have downloaded it previously, it prompts you if you want to “download the last compatible version”. As long as you’ve downloaded it previously you can redownload it.
    - tambourine_man 8y ago
      Yeah, but if you haven’t, you are out of luck
      - scarface74 8y ago
        You can download the app using an older version of iTunes. https://www.lifewire.com/download-apps-to-ipad-using-itunes-4103798 https://www.lifewire.com/download-apps-to-ipad-using-itunes-... Once it shows up as a previous purchase in your account, you can download it from your iPad. You don’t have to sync with iTunes.
        tambourine_man 8y ago
        Nice, thanks
r00fus 8y ago
Uh. I have an old iPad1 that can’t run iOS10 but runs Netflix fine. Have you tried updating the app?
- tambourine_man 8y ago
  Can’t install it. Can’t be downloaded from the App Store. You probably downloaded the version that did some time ago and it just continued to run
roblabla 8y ago
Some of us with mac pros or hackintosh literally can't update to mojave, because of missing nvidia drivers. And high sierra was such a clusterfuck that I'm glad I missed out on it.

sxcurry 8y ago

Curious - how do devs develop on a 2.5 year old OS. Aren’t there risks that things won’t work in recent releases?

jamesb93 8y ago
We test with machines that have it, but we don't operate day to day on 10.14. It's more about offering backwards compatibility so the majority of users can benefit.

Fnoord 8y ago

Sierra (10.12) isn't supported for long: "Extended support ends in September 2019. iTunes, in August 2020" [1] And while High Sierra (10.13) had its quirks [for which I could understand your response, plus all non Retina only work with 10.13 as latest, officially), Mojave (10.14) has been smooth. If not only for the dark mode (finally!). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra