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https://twitter.com/sampenrose/status/944986515930624002 https://twitter.com/sampenrose/status/944986515930624002 "Resolved: Apple should make iPhone for the h

https://twitter.com/sampenrose/status/944986515930624002 https://twitter.com/sampenrose/status/944986515930624002 "Resolved: Apple should make iPhone for the human hands that hold it, not just the eyes and fingertips that invoke its software. ... Now we can update Jobs' "[design is] not just what it looks like ... [but] how it works" for iPhone. What is design for Apple in 2017? ... Design is how it gleams, how it works, and how it shatters."

agumonkey 8y ago
if you think this way you'll gradually go back to button and clamshell era (which I'd welcome)
- grawprog 8y ago
  I'd buy a phone with a keyboard and a touchscreen. I remember an old nokia one i had that had a slide out keyboard. I've had the touchscreen randomly stop working a couple times on my current phone and it gets extremely frustrating fairly quickly. I know you can USB or Bluetooth ones. But something built in would be nice. Your phone suddenly becomes essentially useless when the touchscreen randomly ceases functioning while you're out somewhere and you can't do anything.
  - tyingq 8y ago
    They exist if you don't mind an Android: https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/ https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
    - burk96 8y ago
      How likely is it that the Key 2 will receive security patches past two years? That's the main reason I stick with Samsung or would suggest a Pixel (or an iPhone) right now.
      - cerberusss 8y ago
        Doesn't Google guarantee updates for Pixel for only 18 months?
_red 8y ago
The obsession with "thin" has produced devices which are totally unnatural to type on. My old BB Classic was one of the best pure communication devices I've ever owned. I could write long multi-paragraph emails on that thing hardly ever needing correction. Many of my clients are lawyers, and I noticed that the legal community was one of the last holdouts on BB platform. Namely, because anyone whose job requires lengthy written communication, it provided the best balance of form and function. Even being careful, it seems impossible to type more than 2 or 3 words in succession without needing to correct something on Apple phones. Apple has been hiding their bad (near abysmal) ergonomics behind the success of their app store. I wonder how long it will last? Sadly, I think the whole management team now has too much hubris to ever change course and will continue to double-down on ever thinner devices with 1/2 day battery life.
- Bud 8y ago
  Why are you typing when the voice transcription is now good enough to do several paragraphs with perfect punctuation and paragraph breaks, and very little error?
  - BossingAround 8y ago
    I honestly doubt that's true. I'm a non-native speaker, sure, but: a) When I tried it with my iPhone, there were a lot of errors (1 or 2 per paragraph; I can make a lot fewer of those) b) A lot of errors were quite subtle, making it difficult to correct Additionally, I don't want to send my text to any cloud before even sending it. AFAIK, both Apple and Google send the voice recording to them to analyse it, which makes me say "hell naw" to transcriptions. Bottom line: not interested in voice transcription.
  - OxO4 8y ago
    Voice transcription is not always an option. It works decently for English if you are only using it to transcribe simple, daily texts and you are not in public. For other languages or more complex topics, you quickly hit the limit of what voice transcription can do. In public, you may also not want to say everything out loud that you are about to text to someone.

agumonkey 8y ago

if you think this way you'll gradually go back to button and clamshell era (which I'd welcome)

grawprog 8y ago
I'd buy a phone with a keyboard and a touchscreen. I remember an old nokia one i had that had a slide out keyboard. I've had the touchscreen randomly stop working a couple times on my current phone and it gets extremely frustrating fairly quickly. I know you can USB or Bluetooth ones. But something built in would be nice. Your phone suddenly becomes essentially useless when the touchscreen randomly ceases functioning while you're out somewhere and you can't do anything.
- tyingq 8y ago
  They exist if you don't mind an Android: https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/ https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
  - burk96 8y ago
    How likely is it that the Key 2 will receive security patches past two years? That's the main reason I stick with Samsung or would suggest a Pixel (or an iPhone) right now.
    - cerberusss 8y ago
      Doesn't Google guarantee updates for Pixel for only 18 months?

_red 8y ago

The obsession with "thin" has produced devices which are totally unnatural to type on. My old BB Classic was one of the best pure communication devices I've ever owned. I could write long multi-paragraph emails on that thing hardly ever needing correction. Many of my clients are lawyers, and I noticed that the legal community was one of the last holdouts on BB platform. Namely, because anyone whose job requires lengthy written communication, it provided the best balance of form and function. Even being careful, it seems impossible to type more than 2 or 3 words in succession without needing to correct something on Apple phones. Apple has been hiding their bad (near abysmal) ergonomics behind the success of their app store. I wonder how long it will last? Sadly, I think the whole management team now has too much hubris to ever change course and will continue to double-down on ever thinner devices with 1/2 day battery life.

Bud 8y ago
Why are you typing when the voice transcription is now good enough to do several paragraphs with perfect punctuation and paragraph breaks, and very little error?
- BossingAround 8y ago
  I honestly doubt that's true. I'm a non-native speaker, sure, but: a) When I tried it with my iPhone, there were a lot of errors (1 or 2 per paragraph; I can make a lot fewer of those) b) A lot of errors were quite subtle, making it difficult to correct Additionally, I don't want to send my text to any cloud before even sending it. AFAIK, both Apple and Google send the voice recording to them to analyse it, which makes me say "hell naw" to transcriptions. Bottom line: not interested in voice transcription.
- OxO4 8y ago
  Voice transcription is not always an option. It works decently for English if you are only using it to transcribe simple, daily texts and you are not in public. For other languages or more complex topics, you quickly hit the limit of what voice transcription can do. In public, you may also not want to say everything out loud that you are about to text to someone.