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> killing cops and beating up bitches we listen to some nicer things, they get called ignorant racists. I think some conversation should also go into maybe chan

> killing cops and beating up bitches we listen to some nicer things, they get called ignorant racists. I think some conversation should also go into maybe changing that. Here you present a hypothetical (people are are getting called racist for [respectfully] suggesting that students should stop listening to some explicit forms of rap music) while asking me for concrete examples. When has a person been called racist for such a thing? Can I ask you to stop with your double standards? And Again you are only looking at it from your (privileged) perspective. What if the only "positive" imagery you could relate to was not so positive. You would still have little choice but to relate that imagery for self esteem. And what if somebody from another group who has the privilege of an abundance of relatable alternative positive imagery came and told you not to relate to that single source of positive imagery available to you. Until race becomes a non-issue (I don't see that happening anytime soon) one thing that you can do to help is support alternative positive imagery for minorities. Find a minority politician (Ocasio-Cortez maybe?) you like and support her... have a James Baldwin meetup. Tell people the truth about Christopher Columbus and how sophisticated the people who were subject to his genocide were. Spread positive image about people other than whites and you will surely start solving the problem. Being the angry white guy that keeps saying "Stop listening rap music" is probably not going to work. Please note that there is nothing wrong with spreading positive messages about whites, but ensure that you are not doing so at the expense of the truth or at the expense or exclusion of other groups. This is root cause of the problem and the article does not even touch upon it! * And yes there are positive role-models in the African American community but not enough to counter the overwhelmingly biased media.

smsm42 8y ago
> What if the only "positive" imagery you could relate to was not so positive. Why can't they relate to other imagery? Maybe because they have been told since birth that the only imagery they could relate to is of someone who looks exactly like them? And why isn't there better examples? Why rappers singing about killing cops and raping bitches get showered with money and adoration, and never get called out on the impact they make on the community by their example? Why it's not a topic of the discussion? Social impact of business is all the hot topic now, but try to find an article about social impact of gangsta rap and its glorification on the African-American community? Why people like Herman Cain - successful businessman, author, publicist and politician, or Benjamin Carson - pioneering neurosurgeon, holder of 60 honorary doctorates, recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom - are not getting even one hundredths of an adoration a rapper does? Who is to blame for that? Who is calling out this and trying to change that? Who is responsible for the fact that much more kids want to be Tupac, a convicted rapist, than Carson, a neurosurgeon with Presidential Medal of Freedom? > Find a minority politician (Ocasio-Cortez maybe?) you like and support her Rather bad example. I already lived under socialism, I don't need another one. Especially not one with intellectual capacities so limited as AOC. If you wanted to promote your cause (though I frankly don't care too much if politician is "minority", I care for her or his views, principles and capabilities), it's better to choose some politician that is not the laughingstock of the nation. AOC is of Puerto-Rican descent (well, she's from Bronx, but her parents come from Puerto-Rico). There are by now dozens, if not hundreds, prominent politicians of similar descent. Why should I choose the worst example? If I'd rather choose Nikki Haley, who is a very successful US ambassador and I hope one day will become a successful presidential candidate. > Tell people the truth about Christopher Columbus Columbus was a terrible person (among hundred others terrible conquistadors), but who cares now? Do you thing a young person in poor school that dreams of one day getting to college and becoming a neurosurgeon but can't really study because his peers are unruly and they'd mess him up if they learn he's trying to get ahead and study instead of listening for gangsta rap and smoking ganja like normal people do - do you think he cares about how white people view Columbus? Do you think that is his or her primary problem that we need to solve now?
- externalreality 8y ago
  You are not smart or open minded enough to have a conversation with. You views are very entrenched and bigoted.

smsm42 8y ago

> What if the only "positive" imagery you could relate to was not so positive. Why can't they relate to other imagery? Maybe because they have been told since birth that the only imagery they could relate to is of someone who looks exactly like them? And why isn't there better examples? Why rappers singing about killing cops and raping bitches get showered with money and adoration, and never get called out on the impact they make on the community by their example? Why it's not a topic of the discussion? Social impact of business is all the hot topic now, but try to find an article about social impact of gangsta rap and its glorification on the African-American community? Why people like Herman Cain - successful businessman, author, publicist and politician, or Benjamin Carson - pioneering neurosurgeon, holder of 60 honorary doctorates, recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom - are not getting even one hundredths of an adoration a rapper does? Who is to blame for that? Who is calling out this and trying to change that? Who is responsible for the fact that much more kids want to be Tupac, a convicted rapist, than Carson, a neurosurgeon with Presidential Medal of Freedom? > Find a minority politician (Ocasio-Cortez maybe?) you like and support her Rather bad example. I already lived under socialism, I don't need another one. Especially not one with intellectual capacities so limited as AOC. If you wanted to promote your cause (though I frankly don't care too much if politician is "minority", I care for her or his views, principles and capabilities), it's better to choose some politician that is not the laughingstock of the nation. AOC is of Puerto-Rican descent (well, she's from Bronx, but her parents come from Puerto-Rico). There are by now dozens, if not hundreds, prominent politicians of similar descent. Why should I choose the worst example? If I'd rather choose Nikki Haley, who is a very successful US ambassador and I hope one day will become a successful presidential candidate. > Tell people the truth about Christopher Columbus Columbus was a terrible person (among hundred others terrible conquistadors), but who cares now? Do you thing a young person in poor school that dreams of one day getting to college and becoming a neurosurgeon but can't really study because his peers are unruly and they'd mess him up if they learn he's trying to get ahead and study instead of listening for gangsta rap and smoking ganja like normal people do - do you think he cares about how white people view Columbus? Do you think that is his or her primary problem that we need to solve now?

externalreality 8y ago
You are not smart or open minded enough to have a conversation with. You views are very entrenched and bigoted.