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> With Mozilla's Rust adoption, Firefox got fast. Those are unrelated.

by Vogtinator 8y ago

rat9988 8y ago
I wonder why people make such bold wrong claims.
- plg 8y ago
  I think in this case it’s probably because the person in question is simply mistaken. The other possibility is that they are some kind of Rust evangelist and they are actively trying to deceive people. I doubt it. Could we please approach each other with the benefit of the doubt? Could we please gently, constructively correct errors? I see no need to be so aggressive, especially in our current social/political climate.
  - rat9988 8y ago
    What current social/political climate? Moreover, the problem is that he claimed without research. And this is what bothers me. How can people be certain of something they have never seen confirmed anywhere.
AsyncAwait 8y ago
Well, it got faster because of Servo, which is written in Rust, so not completely unrelated, but yes, it did not get fast because of Rust the language.
steveklabnik 8y ago
Stylo was attempted in C++ twice. Both times it was too buggy and had to be thrown out. The third time, they used Rust. And it worked.
- justanother- 8y ago
  But not becoase of Rust. To develop in c++/c you need to know what you are doing. The developers like that, are very rare today. (And now I will get -20 when whole Rust evengalist crew will reign down on me... :D :D :D And people complain about Russians manipulating the elections :D Nothin compared to Rust :D)
j16sdiz 8y ago
Most of recent Firefox performance come from parelelization in servo. Mozilla research said rush enabled them doing safe multuthreading.
- justanother- 8y ago
  I can do safe multithreading in c++ at any time. But I will sit down with a solution for a while before I even start coding. Might even take more time than writting the code. I will outperform the Rust even if I will use inline assembly. Rust is the same as everything else. A good enough alternative for people incapable of understanding software development beyond copy pasting code from internet. And everyone else is too rare and expensive to hire him. And today "good enough" developers are harder to find than "good enough" language. Today no one is prepared to pay for quality thats why everything us bellow average, not only development, every single product you find. Actually it is funny the people are prepared to pay more for hype than quality. Wait a few more years and Rust will be "too hard to use". At the end javascript idiocracy will prevail. Buying Getoraid stocks, in 20 years they will be worth more than gold. Coz it has electrolytes.
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> With Mozilla's Rust adoption, Firefox got fast. Those are unrelated.

rat9988 8y ago

I wonder why people make such bold wrong claims.

plg 8y ago
I think in this case it’s probably because the person in question is simply mistaken. The other possibility is that they are some kind of Rust evangelist and they are actively trying to deceive people. I doubt it. Could we please approach each other with the benefit of the doubt? Could we please gently, constructively correct errors? I see no need to be so aggressive, especially in our current social/political climate.
- rat9988 8y ago
  What current social/political climate? Moreover, the problem is that he claimed without research. And this is what bothers me. How can people be certain of something they have never seen confirmed anywhere.

AsyncAwait 8y ago

Well, it got faster because of Servo, which is written in Rust, so not completely unrelated, but yes, it did not get fast because of Rust the language.

steveklabnik 8y ago

Stylo was attempted in C++ twice. Both times it was too buggy and had to be thrown out. The third time, they used Rust. And it worked.

justanother- 8y ago
But not becoase of Rust. To develop in c++/c you need to know what you are doing. The developers like that, are very rare today. (And now I will get -20 when whole Rust evengalist crew will reign down on me... :D :D :D And people complain about Russians manipulating the elections :D Nothin compared to Rust :D)

j16sdiz 8y ago

Most of recent Firefox performance come from parelelization in servo. Mozilla research said rush enabled them doing safe multuthreading.

justanother- 8y ago
I can do safe multithreading in c++ at any time. But I will sit down with a solution for a while before I even start coding. Might even take more time than writting the code. I will outperform the Rust even if I will use inline assembly. Rust is the same as everything else. A good enough alternative for people incapable of understanding software development beyond copy pasting code from internet. And everyone else is too rare and expensive to hire him. And today "good enough" developers are harder to find than "good enough" language. Today no one is prepared to pay for quality thats why everything us bellow average, not only development, every single product you find. Actually it is funny the people are prepared to pay more for hype than quality. Wait a few more years and Rust will be "too hard to use". At the end javascript idiocracy will prevail. Buying Getoraid stocks, in 20 years they will be worth more than gold. Coz it has electrolytes.
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