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If it was agreed by both parties that the spouse wouldn’t work. The woman leaving their job because they now have a husband that supports her was never supposed
by alexis_fr 8y ago
If it was agreed by both parties that the spouse wouldn’t work. The woman leaving their job because they now have a husband that supports her was never supposed to be part of the deal.
When it’s part of the deal, it is supposed to be temporary while the children grow up, not a permanent right of the wife to cease supporting her lifestyle.
It was supposed to help the children. Marriage was for the children initially.
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- lotsofpulp 8y agoIt seems plausible to me that societies that developed a marriage type situation could have benefited from more stability due to men being more settled (or at least having the veneer of being settled) and not competing with each other for every woman they see. Otherwise, it seems possible we could end up with a situation where 20% of men get 80% of women like many other species and the males have to keep fighting each other to determine who gets them.
- 1000units 8y agoWe've outlawed dueling yet we've also dismantled the traditional institution of marriage. These are very strange times.
- Retric 8y agoThe traditional institution of marriage is less changed than you might assume. Historically, it’s varied quite a bit from any given norm, the largest change is simply longer lifespans and less cheating.
- lotsofpulp 8y agoThe most important change in the last 50 years compared to any time before is that women now have the option to be self sufficient.
- XMPPwocky 8y agoEven accepting your premise, which I don't... Is it ethical to require half of the species to be dependent just for societal stability?
- lotsofpulp 8y agoI never insinuated that half the species should be dependent for social stability. In a previous comment, I mentioned it was plausible a one woman-one man (or any 1 to 1 partnership ignoring genders) results in more stable societies due to less competition.
- 1000units 8y agoIt lasts longer but less cheating happens? How? Has marriage actually become stronger?
- rjsw 8y agoI wonder whether traditional marriage is the cause of western style society rather than a product of it. If only the Alpha males get to reproduce then you only select for Alpha male type characteristics. You don't select for the gene sets that will produce new inventions, good craftspeople, or people who can work at administration of larger groups.
- menzoic 8y agoThere is no alpha male. The original study confused the father in a family of wolves as a general "alpha". The original author retracted the results, but it still lives on. https://www.businessinsider.com/no-such-thing-alpha-male-2016-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/no-such-thing-alpha-male-201...
- hopler 8y agoSubstitute "alpha" with "cad", then. The fact remains that when transaction costs are reduced (as with mobile app dating), polygamy increases to that number of 20% of males mating with 80% of the females, with reproduxtio mitigated by modern birth control.