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You're certainly right in that people would object to the construction of an out-and-out panopticon.
by antepodius 8y ago
You're certainly right in that people would object to the construction of an out-and-out panopticon.
- ianai 8y agoAsk yourself why any part of the lecture and homework should be kept private. We already know to not assume privacy in public spaces. Teachers are in an environment where they should not assume privacy. Student grades are personal and should be under their control who sees them - but it should be possible to challenge a bad grade. There are malignant teachers in the world.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoSome people aren’t particularly fond of performing in front of a camera to have their performance reviewed by—the data will be leaked—anyone. It should be possible to flag a bad grade, doesn’t mean we need to institute a surveillance system to achieve this. The same goes for bad actors playing teacher.
- wallace_f 8y agoIf you're ever been victim of bullying or abuse, especially by an authority, you'd consider the right to record yourself in public to be important. The ACLU even has an app that can start recording by voice command. You should use it any time you are in a scenario with disproportionate inbalance of power (like when a police officer pulls you over).
- ianai 8y agoExactly. For me, school bullying marred me deeply. Even to this day, going on 30 years later. I didn’t know what to do back then to fight it or stop it. Even that I should have. Someone seeing it on camera could have caught it and forced the issue. I wish someone had every second of every day in one way or another.
- wallace_f 8y agoI am an adult and live with targeted hate and bullying. It's extremely difficult.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoThat must be tough. Do you have any one, or any services, you can reach out to for support? You're not alone.
- wallace_f 8y agoTo be honest, it's hard to confront, and I don't even really know where or how to begin to get help.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoMy email address is in my profile, please feel free to contact me.
- ianai 8y agoFor me, it took me until I was 22 to realize the bullying actually stopped once I changed high schools. To this day I feel naturally distanced from people not dissimilar to fear of bullying coming back. I don’t have an answer. Just sharing.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoI have been the victim of bullying and abuse, both at school by arse-hat students, teachers, year-level co-ordinators, and by the police. I have, at times, walked in to situations with my phone's voice recorder running. I have, at times, photographed and filmed the police. What does the right to record yourself in public have to do with institutionalised panopticon style surveillance?
- wallace_f 8y agoI missed a chance to directly reply to this. I wasn't necessarily arguing for institutionalized/state surveillance, but that ideally, by my own experiences, I'd wish I'd have had every moment of my interactions in public available. It's simply too easy for people in power to abuse others.
- ianai 8y agoBullying is horrifically effective at protecting itself. One huge reason I never got help with the bullying was fear. Fear that moving me in the class room would further isolate me from my peers. Fear of retaliation. Etc. They had me convinced I deserved the abuse or that it wasn’t abuse. They were “just telling me to expect to live my life alone and that no one would ever love me” out of the goodness of their hearts. Why seek help with something that’s “not even a thing”? That’s why third parties need to oversee student interactions.
- wallace_f 8y agoThanks for this comment. It is accurate at describing my circumstances as well. Although in my case I think I am fortunate a lot of people want to help me, but are scared to, or dont know what to do. Unfortunately, my immediate peer group is where this started.