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This is why keep pushing my daughter towards a trade school. (Once you become immune to eye-rolling life gets easier.) There's a lot of companies with unfille

This is why keep pushing my daughter towards a trade school. (Once you become immune to eye-rolling life gets easier.) There's a lot of companies with unfilled skilled blue collar jobs. And despite self-driving trucks, semi drivers can make some serious money. And HVAC projected job growth is 14% over the next 10 years. Thank you Global Warming!

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bad_good_guy 8y ago
Should you really be actively pushing your child in any direction? Would the best course of action not just be to make sure that trade schools are a completely viable choice, should she not be interested in an academic subject?
- CogitoCogito 8y ago
  Basically everybody actively pushes their child in some direction. Assuming you have some wisdom to offer, that's basically what parenting is about. If the OP truly believes trade schools are a better choice, then I don't see why he shouldn't push them. Besides in the circles I grew in this attitude would have brought some balance to things considering I was surrounded by people pushing deeply academic subjects beyond all else.
- danaur 8y ago
  Parents should guide their children, you can argue about the level of guidance but the meme that you should give your child full control over what they choose to do isn't sensible
- greedo 8y ago
  Expecting a 17 year old to make life long decisions is nuts, knowing what we do about brain development in young adults. If my daughter wants to study dolphin therapy, you bet I'm going to push her in a direction...
Casseres 8y ago
I highly recommend Marine Engineering at a maritime academy if mechanically or mathematically -inclined. You get a four-year engineering degree and a license from the US Coast Guard as an Engineering Officer. You can easily pay off your student loans very quickly, you get to see the world, and if you do it right, you have little to no expenses while you're sailing and can bank that money for when you quit. For most people though, I don't recommend making it a long-term career though. It can be dangerous, and I always felt like my life was on pause while many of my friends were getting married, having kids, etc. (And I worked with a lot of older men who did not have good family/wife situations.) One can certainly get a desk job with a Marine Engineering degree, but one leaves so much on the table if they do.
AngryData 8y ago
There are a few trade jobs that are good money, but I find this idea that trade jobs overall are some overlooked gem completely preposterous. I work in the trades and while some jobs are decent, most trade jobs are still shit and pay shit for what you are doing. Especially when you factor in the high rates of injury and death, and the life long physical ailments that many of these jobs cause. Yeah you will make decent money laying brick, but what kind of physical shape are most 60 year old brick layers in? How much pain do they suffer and how much does that effect their total life span? You might look at a heavy equipment mechanic and think "Wow, they make a decent bit more than just a normal mechanic! What a good deal!" and not think about what kind of condition your hands are in after 40 years of wrenching on huge shit, a lot of the older mechanics have to get their wives to open jars because their hands are basically shot and can only hold a few clawed wrenching positions. Now there are some real sweet positions and trade jobs out there, don't get me wrong, but there are a whole lot more shit positions beneath that and a whole lot of other factors other than just the hourly pay.

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bad_good_guy 8y ago

Should you really be actively pushing your child in any direction? Would the best course of action not just be to make sure that trade schools are a completely viable choice, should she not be interested in an academic subject?

CogitoCogito 8y ago
Basically everybody actively pushes their child in some direction. Assuming you have some wisdom to offer, that's basically what parenting is about. If the OP truly believes trade schools are a better choice, then I don't see why he shouldn't push them. Besides in the circles I grew in this attitude would have brought some balance to things considering I was surrounded by people pushing deeply academic subjects beyond all else.
danaur 8y ago
Parents should guide their children, you can argue about the level of guidance but the meme that you should give your child full control over what they choose to do isn't sensible
greedo 8y ago
Expecting a 17 year old to make life long decisions is nuts, knowing what we do about brain development in young adults. If my daughter wants to study dolphin therapy, you bet I'm going to push her in a direction...

Casseres 8y ago

I highly recommend Marine Engineering at a maritime academy if mechanically or mathematically -inclined. You get a four-year engineering degree and a license from the US Coast Guard as an Engineering Officer. You can easily pay off your student loans very quickly, you get to see the world, and if you do it right, you have little to no expenses while you're sailing and can bank that money for when you quit. For most people though, I don't recommend making it a long-term career though. It can be dangerous, and I always felt like my life was on pause while many of my friends were getting married, having kids, etc. (And I worked with a lot of older men who did not have good family/wife situations.) One can certainly get a desk job with a Marine Engineering degree, but one leaves so much on the table if they do.

AngryData 8y ago

There are a few trade jobs that are good money, but I find this idea that trade jobs overall are some overlooked gem completely preposterous. I work in the trades and while some jobs are decent, most trade jobs are still shit and pay shit for what you are doing. Especially when you factor in the high rates of injury and death, and the life long physical ailments that many of these jobs cause. Yeah you will make decent money laying brick, but what kind of physical shape are most 60 year old brick layers in? How much pain do they suffer and how much does that effect their total life span? You might look at a heavy equipment mechanic and think "Wow, they make a decent bit more than just a normal mechanic! What a good deal!" and not think about what kind of condition your hands are in after 40 years of wrenching on huge shit, a lot of the older mechanics have to get their wives to open jars because their hands are basically shot and can only hold a few clawed wrenching positions. Now there are some real sweet positions and trade jobs out there, don't get me wrong, but there are a whole lot more shit positions beneath that and a whole lot of other factors other than just the hourly pay.