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Before buying a copy of Prime Obsession, please learn more about the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Derbyshire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_De

by mbrudd 8y ago

Before buying a copy of Prime Obsession, please learn more about the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Derbyshire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Derbyshire I bought and read his book some time ago, and now I regret supporting him with my purchase.

yters 8y ago
> There have of course been some blots on the record, but I don't see how it can be denied that net-net, white Europeans have made a better job of running fair and stable societies than has any other group. If colonialism, WW2 and USSR are 'blots' he might have to reexamine his definition of 'blot'. White supremacists hold themselves up as people willing to speak difficult truths. But their logic tends to be pretty question begging. It's like atheists who claim religion is the root of violence, all the while ignoring the genocidal atheists regimes of the 20th and 21st centuries.
- p1esk 8y ago
  Which group did better than white Europeans?
  - yters 8y ago
    The groups that didn't start global wars or genocidal regimes that wiped out hundreds of millions of people? Another odd thing is that these white supremacists act like Judeo-Christian culture (which is what they are really praising) sprang fully formed from the Caucasian race. However, the white Europeans were just warring tribes until they were colonized by the Romans. And, Judeo-Christian culture was founded by Jews (Jesus was a Jew), whom the white supremacists tend to dislike. It'd be interesting if they could name some significant aspect of Judeo-Christian culture that came entirely from white Europeans. White supremacists come off as bumbling ethnocentric historical revisionists.
    - OpenBSD-supreme 8y ago
      >white supremist this >white supremist that Why is no other racial pro-group labelled "supremist" while white/ethnic Euro interest groups are? Also, Christianity has been an anchor around Europe's neck for millennia; it's about time a scientific secular system of thought puts it to bed permanently. One can be pro Euro and also be secular, we each evolved as separate groups with local adaptations. One isn't necessarily "supreme" anymore than a poodle is supreme over a chihuahua. It is also not illogical to have a preference for one's own over outsider groups, otherwise why is anti-racism drilled so hard in school and childrens' pop media? (I can't think of a future more deprived of diversity than the "inevitable" mocha-colored masses of a millennia from now, all sharing the same global culture.)
OpenBSD-supreme 8y ago
His support for European pride makes me want to buy his book more. Pretty much every racial group has history of conquest and enslavement, but for some reason whites have to be the ones to bend the knee everytime it's brought up. It's OK to be white, and proud of it; sorry but not sorry! Whites/Europeans (ethnic, not "civil") could end up in bondage to another group and their oppression would still be crowed about! I firmly believe we must support our own in our homelands and conquered lands before we become minorities in both. On a world wide scale, white ethnic Euros are a minority of the major racial groups, and we're not-breeding and inviting our futures away to "immigrants! "

by mbrudd 8y ago

yters 8y ago

> There have of course been some blots on the record, but I don't see how it can be denied that net-net, white Europeans have made a better job of running fair and stable societies than has any other group. If colonialism, WW2 and USSR are 'blots' he might have to reexamine his definition of 'blot'. White supremacists hold themselves up as people willing to speak difficult truths. But their logic tends to be pretty question begging. It's like atheists who claim religion is the root of violence, all the while ignoring the genocidal atheists regimes of the 20th and 21st centuries.

p1esk 8y ago
Which group did better than white Europeans?
- yters 8y ago
  The groups that didn't start global wars or genocidal regimes that wiped out hundreds of millions of people? Another odd thing is that these white supremacists act like Judeo-Christian culture (which is what they are really praising) sprang fully formed from the Caucasian race. However, the white Europeans were just warring tribes until they were colonized by the Romans. And, Judeo-Christian culture was founded by Jews (Jesus was a Jew), whom the white supremacists tend to dislike. It'd be interesting if they could name some significant aspect of Judeo-Christian culture that came entirely from white Europeans. White supremacists come off as bumbling ethnocentric historical revisionists.
  - OpenBSD-supreme 8y ago
    >white supremist this >white supremist that Why is no other racial pro-group labelled "supremist" while white/ethnic Euro interest groups are? Also, Christianity has been an anchor around Europe's neck for millennia; it's about time a scientific secular system of thought puts it to bed permanently. One can be pro Euro and also be secular, we each evolved as separate groups with local adaptations. One isn't necessarily "supreme" anymore than a poodle is supreme over a chihuahua. It is also not illogical to have a preference for one's own over outsider groups, otherwise why is anti-racism drilled so hard in school and childrens' pop media? (I can't think of a future more deprived of diversity than the "inevitable" mocha-colored masses of a millennia from now, all sharing the same global culture.)

OpenBSD-supreme 8y ago

His support for European pride makes me want to buy his book more. Pretty much every racial group has history of conquest and enslavement, but for some reason whites have to be the ones to bend the knee everytime it's brought up. It's OK to be white, and proud of it; sorry but not sorry! Whites/Europeans (ethnic, not "civil") could end up in bondage to another group and their oppression would still be crowed about! I firmly believe we must support our own in our homelands and conquered lands before we become minorities in both. On a world wide scale, white ethnic Euros are a minority of the major racial groups, and we're not-breeding and inviting our futures away to "immigrants! "