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Having used "sudo vi /etc/hosts" to add .dev domains, this gets no <3 from me. I'm going to avoid buying one, but if there are any popular .dev domains I hope

Having used "sudo vi /etc/hosts" to add .dev domains, this gets no <3 from me. I'm going to avoid buying one, but if there are any popular .dev domains I hope I will forget about it before long. I don't want negative feelings from this so often. On the other hand there are plenty of reminders of negative things in politics and the environment, so I guess I've gotten used to it and developed outrage fatigue.

glennpratt 8y ago
/etc/hosts doesn't accept wildcards, so you probably didn't catch much. This was settled a long time ago: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 .test is only one more letter.
- benatkin 8y ago
  That's why I was editing it with vim. I manually added the two dozen or so names and put them in my team's git repo. .test doesn't convey the meaning I intended.
  - glennpratt 8y ago
    Ok, but you are wrong, just like the folks who insist on using clever DoD IP addresses instead of RFC 1918.
    - benatkin 8y ago
      At least you aren't directly accusing me of failing to RTFM! I've been vaguely aware of what's in that RFC, but I don't think reserving those TLDs for local stuff means that other TLDs are off limits. I certainly don't use example.com for all example emails. Developer happiness comes first. I got burned by going with domains outside that doc, but I think the blame goes on Google, not on those who decided to use .dev without making it an official standard. I think if it was an official standard Google might still have muscled their way into getting .dev, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with .test in the future.
      - glennpratt 8y ago
        I'm a developer too, I always use example.com because accidentally triggering bogus outbound mail from corporate IP addresses can make a mess for Operations. And Google gets baseless accusations because you feel entitled to something. Enjoy the feeling, you're entitled to it.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
We have RFCs for a reason, so people follow predictable behavior everywhere. And so you don’t build up a ton of work/customization and then suddenly have a surprise like this. Worse, you embed that custom design into a system and then leave and someone else needs to fix that mess. .test is what you should have been using, precisely for this reason.
- benatkin 8y ago
  Nope. Testing is a meaningful term in software development, and what I was using it for doesn't entirely fit into my concept of testing. Much of it was just development.

glennpratt 8y ago

/etc/hosts doesn't accept wildcards, so you probably didn't catch much. This was settled a long time ago: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 .test is only one more letter.

benatkin 8y ago
That's why I was editing it with vim. I manually added the two dozen or so names and put them in my team's git repo. .test doesn't convey the meaning I intended.
- glennpratt 8y ago
  Ok, but you are wrong, just like the folks who insist on using clever DoD IP addresses instead of RFC 1918.
  - benatkin 8y ago
    At least you aren't directly accusing me of failing to RTFM! I've been vaguely aware of what's in that RFC, but I don't think reserving those TLDs for local stuff means that other TLDs are off limits. I certainly don't use example.com for all example emails. Developer happiness comes first. I got burned by going with domains outside that doc, but I think the blame goes on Google, not on those who decided to use .dev without making it an official standard. I think if it was an official standard Google might still have muscled their way into getting .dev, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with .test in the future.
    - glennpratt 8y ago
      I'm a developer too, I always use example.com because accidentally triggering bogus outbound mail from corporate IP addresses can make a mess for Operations. And Google gets baseless accusations because you feel entitled to something. Enjoy the feeling, you're entitled to it.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago

We have RFCs for a reason, so people follow predictable behavior everywhere. And so you don’t build up a ton of work/customization and then suddenly have a surprise like this. Worse, you embed that custom design into a system and then leave and someone else needs to fix that mess. .test is what you should have been using, precisely for this reason.

benatkin 8y ago
Nope. Testing is a meaningful term in software development, and what I was using it for doesn't entirely fit into my concept of testing. Much of it was just development.