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Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see whi

by imgabe 8y ago

Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see which houses black people go into? The information flows both ways. We could also use location data to see who regularly attends KKK meetings and who was at the house at the time a cross was burned in the yard and then arrest them, which is ultimately going to be more effective in stopping things like that from happening.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
> The information flows both ways. But the willingness to commit crimes and to hurt people does not. If one side is willing to be violent towards the other, but the other is not, then the symmetry in information flow does not result in a power balance.
marcinzm 8y ago
>Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see which houses black people go into? The intelligent ones will figure out the fastest way to get what they want or maybe some foreign government interested in impacting an election will send them a list of targets. >The information flows both ways. We could also use location data to see who regularly attends KKK meetings and who was at the house at the time a cross was burned in the yard and then arrest them, which is ultimately going to be more effective in stopping things like that from happening. Attending a KKK meeting is not illegal and turning off your cell phone during the crime is easy. Furthermore, the police are not angels but merely people. If you make it easy for the police to get this information then they will abuse it against those they don't like. Like the FBI threatening Martin Luther King.
pmoriarty 8y ago
"Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see which houses black people go into?" You're assuming that every "black" person can be identified by what they look like. To many racists, however, one's ancestry matters a lot, so if one happened to have too many (or maybe any) black ancestors, then they would consider you black (or at least "non-white"), no matter what you look like. Take a look at the elaborate Nuremberg Laws[1], which decreed who was or was not legally considered a Jew. This was done based on ancestry as well as religious affiliation. It was done with 1930's and 40's paper records and technology, but could be done much more efficiently with the computers and digital records of today. Incidentally, the Nazis' views on race were greatly influenced by Eugenics movement in America and groups like the KKK. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

by imgabe 8y ago

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago

> The information flows both ways. But the willingness to commit crimes and to hurt people does not. If one side is willing to be violent towards the other, but the other is not, then the symmetry in information flow does not result in a power balance.

marcinzm 8y ago

>Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see which houses black people go into? The intelligent ones will figure out the fastest way to get what they want or maybe some foreign government interested in impacting an election will send them a list of targets. >The information flows both ways. We could also use location data to see who regularly attends KKK meetings and who was at the house at the time a cross was burned in the yard and then arrest them, which is ultimately going to be more effective in stopping things like that from happening. Attending a KKK meeting is not illegal and turning off your cell phone during the crime is easy. Furthermore, the police are not angels but merely people. If you make it easy for the police to get this information then they will abuse it against those they don't like. Like the FBI threatening Martin Luther King.

pmoriarty 8y ago

"Is the KKK going to search through a marketing database to find out where black people live, or are they going to just drive around the neighborhood and see which houses black people go into?" You're assuming that every "black" person can be identified by what they look like. To many racists, however, one's ancestry matters a lot, so if one happened to have too many (or maybe any) black ancestors, then they would consider you black (or at least "non-white"), no matter what you look like. Take a look at the elaborate Nuremberg Laws[1], which decreed who was or was not legally considered a Jew. This was done based on ancestry as well as religious affiliation. It was done with 1930's and 40's paper records and technology, but could be done much more efficiently with the computers and digital records of today. Incidentally, the Nazis' views on race were greatly influenced by Eugenics movement in America and groups like the KKK. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws