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Is this the only reason the current house of cards stays up and functions? I think so. Almost no one realises what companies predict and infer from their data,

Is this the only reason the current house of cards stays up and functions? I think so. Almost no one realises what companies predict and infer from their data, or the extent of its collection. Once they see some of the surface effects they start calling it creepy or scary. If people ever start realising the true extent, expect a backlash, surely?

teddyh 8y ago
> If people ever start realising the true extent, expect a backlash, surely? No. Since it has been going on for so long, people, when they realize it now, will rationalize: • To not have realized it for this long, I must have been stupid. • I am not stupid. • Therefore, I must be OK with what is happening. And they will come up with numerous ridiculous rationalizations – fake reasons to be OK with the current situation, all to avoid admitting to themselves that they did not realize it.
everdev 8y ago
> If people ever start realising the true extent, expect a backlash, surely? I'm not sure. We seem to be in a sharing culture where we want to broadcast on the internet where we are, who we're with, what we're eating, what we think about current events, etc. And it seems to be a source of pride to publicly identify with political groups and social movements. So, I feel like people freely share much of this info.
mtgx 8y ago
Yes it is. And I always mention it on this board and others whenever people start concluding that "people just don't care about privacy." It's not that they don't care, they just don't understand the true implications of having someone like Google or Facebook have pixel tracking on all websites on the web tracking you, or them tracking wherever you go, and the thousand ways in which that data could be misused by them, their partners, or people stealing that data from those companies. I've noticed from other older stories that even pro-surveillance politicians don't understand what they are pushing for, as some of them were later "shocked" to discover that those very powers could also be used to gather information on them. And then they started singing a different tune about the surveillance powers spy agencies should be given.
- echevil 8y ago
  > It's not that they don't care, they just don't understand the true implications Just to give you a data point since you drew that conclusion. I'm fully aware of the tons of the mechanisms website use to track you and all of it's implications. I am not concerned about it at all.

teddyh 8y ago

> If people ever start realising the true extent, expect a backlash, surely? No. Since it has been going on for so long, people, when they realize it now, will rationalize: • To not have realized it for this long, I must have been stupid. • I am not stupid. • Therefore, I must be OK with what is happening. And they will come up with numerous ridiculous rationalizations – fake reasons to be OK with the current situation, all to avoid admitting to themselves that they did not realize it.

everdev 8y ago

> If people ever start realising the true extent, expect a backlash, surely? I'm not sure. We seem to be in a sharing culture where we want to broadcast on the internet where we are, who we're with, what we're eating, what we think about current events, etc. And it seems to be a source of pride to publicly identify with political groups and social movements. So, I feel like people freely share much of this info.

mtgx 8y ago

Yes it is. And I always mention it on this board and others whenever people start concluding that "people just don't care about privacy." It's not that they don't care, they just don't understand the true implications of having someone like Google or Facebook have pixel tracking on all websites on the web tracking you, or them tracking wherever you go, and the thousand ways in which that data could be misused by them, their partners, or people stealing that data from those companies. I've noticed from other older stories that even pro-surveillance politicians don't understand what they are pushing for, as some of them were later "shocked" to discover that those very powers could also be used to gather information on them. And then they started singing a different tune about the surveillance powers spy agencies should be given.

echevil 8y ago
> It's not that they don't care, they just don't understand the true implications Just to give you a data point since you drew that conclusion. I'm fully aware of the tons of the mechanisms website use to track you and all of it's implications. I am not concerned about it at all.