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> She had repeated a Twitter comment urging nationalist protesters to smash Japan's pavilion at the Shanghai Expo, adding the words "Charge, angry youth". She'

> She had repeated a Twitter comment urging nationalist protesters to smash Japan's pavilion at the Shanghai Expo, adding the words "Charge, angry youth". She's encouraging racially based violence... I'm all for free speech, but this really crosses the line. The closest American analogy I can think of would be for someone to encourage the Ku Klux Klan to "string 'em up!" Seriously, I have Japanese friends that won't go to China any more out of fear, which is probably something the Chinese government doesn't want. There's quite a lot of violence against Japanese businesses, and sometimes people, in China these days. And that's a bad thing. The Japanese did bad things in WWII, but the younger Japanese had nothing to do with it. Not to mention, in the interim other Chinese have done much, much worse things to their fellow countrymen than the Japanese ever did. Edit: A year in a labor camp does seem excessive, but yeah, publicly encouraging violence and rioting against a specific nationality of people is not okay, and probably should be a crime of some sort, though probably with a lesser penalty.

robryan 16y ago
I guess your position and reputation come into it to, I could go insight as much violence on Twitter right now and nothing would come of it. Drawing a parallel though, if someone prominent with influence did this in America what would the repercussions towards them be?
- yread 16y ago
  Yeah? How about saying that you'll blow up an airport "sky high"?
  - maeon3 16y ago
    For those of you saying that no injustice has occurred here and saying that an equivalent punishment would occur in America under these circumstances. Lets review what would happen to this girl in America vs China: 1. That person does not just "disappear." 2. The person is permitted to speak with an attorney without answering police questions 3. The police must file charges within a short time or release the person. 4. The person is entitled to a bail hearing. 5. The person is entitled to a public and speedy trial. 6. The finder of fact in the trial is a jury of citizens But other than these things, its the same thing here as there. However, China can't afford to jail people like they do in America, if they did they would need to throw 500 million people in there. See the incarceration rates us vs china. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_Sta...
axod 16y ago
If someone is trying to incite real violence, they're unlikely to do it on Twitter. Holding people to account for things they tweet is insane. Twitter isn't a credible communications mechanism IMHO. It's for people to shout random things. You simply can't judge intent in 140 characters. If I tweet "I am going to bomb london bridge tomorrow", there's no way to know if I'm just having a bad day, making a joke, or am a terrorist for some reason tweeting my intentions. (The last is extremely unlikely). Even if I tweeted "All gays should be killed at birth", that doesn't in itself IMHO warrant any action. It could be some weird 'in' joke or meme. It could be that I'm gay and I wish I was dead because I'm having a hard day.... People get offended way too easily these days. Tweets are just words. They're not offensive because there's no connection or intent to harm. People need to chill out and start applying common sense to life. 99.9% aren't terrorists. 99.9% of people are pedophiles. The security theatre at airports doesn't make us any safer, prosecuting people for tweeting things doesn't make us any safer.
qsun 16y ago
No, she did not encourage violence, actually she was trying to shame racists in an irony manner. In plain English, that tweet reads, You stupid anti-Japan racists, why do not you guys go to Shanghai World Expo and destroy Japanese Show? You guys are only be brave enough to destroy consuming goods imported from Japan.

robryan 16y ago

I guess your position and reputation come into it to, I could go insight as much violence on Twitter right now and nothing would come of it. Drawing a parallel though, if someone prominent with influence did this in America what would the repercussions towards them be?

yread 16y ago
Yeah? How about saying that you'll blow up an airport "sky high"?
- maeon3 16y ago
  For those of you saying that no injustice has occurred here and saying that an equivalent punishment would occur in America under these circumstances. Lets review what would happen to this girl in America vs China: 1. That person does not just "disappear." 2. The person is permitted to speak with an attorney without answering police questions 3. The police must file charges within a short time or release the person. 4. The person is entitled to a bail hearing. 5. The person is entitled to a public and speedy trial. 6. The finder of fact in the trial is a jury of citizens But other than these things, its the same thing here as there. However, China can't afford to jail people like they do in America, if they did they would need to throw 500 million people in there. See the incarceration rates us vs china. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_Sta...

axod 16y ago

If someone is trying to incite real violence, they're unlikely to do it on Twitter. Holding people to account for things they tweet is insane. Twitter isn't a credible communications mechanism IMHO. It's for people to shout random things. You simply can't judge intent in 140 characters. If I tweet "I am going to bomb london bridge tomorrow", there's no way to know if I'm just having a bad day, making a joke, or am a terrorist for some reason tweeting my intentions. (The last is extremely unlikely). Even if I tweeted "All gays should be killed at birth", that doesn't in itself IMHO warrant any action. It could be some weird 'in' joke or meme. It could be that I'm gay and I wish I was dead because I'm having a hard day.... People get offended way too easily these days. Tweets are just words. They're not offensive because there's no connection or intent to harm. People need to chill out and start applying common sense to life. 99.9% aren't terrorists. 99.9% of people are pedophiles. The security theatre at airports doesn't make us any safer, prosecuting people for tweeting things doesn't make us any safer.

qsun 16y ago

No, she did not encourage violence, actually she was trying to shame racists in an irony manner. In plain English, that tweet reads, You stupid anti-Japan racists, why do not you guys go to Shanghai World Expo and destroy Japanese Show? You guys are only be brave enough to destroy consuming goods imported from Japan.