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I'm sorry, but pushing a button on a fully automatic espresso machine does not make the robot a barista. I'd like to see the robot make me an espresso using a s
by uhtred 8y ago
I'm sorry, but pushing a button on a fully automatic espresso machine does not make the robot a barista. I'd like to see the robot make me an espresso using a semi-automatic espresso machine, making sure to sample the espresso throughout the day to check for over or under extraction, and adjusting the grind to compensate for changes in air pressure and temperature.
- ihuman 8y ago> barista noun > a person who makes and serves coffee (such as espresso) to the public https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/barista https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/barista Sounds to me like this robot is a barista. Do you also think Starbucks baristas aren't baristas, just because they don't work in a high-end coffeeshop?
- delinka 8y ago> person who makes ... Are these robots persons?
- mc32 8y agoIsn’t that limitation because up until now it’s always been people, but in the future could include robots or trained (non human) animals?
- simple_phrases 8y agoWas the Automat staffed with machine waiters?
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- uhtred 8y agoOh well done you. I guess I meant the robot is not a good barista.
- RileyJames 8y agoBy that definition, serving instant coffee at a roadside ‘revive and survive’ would be considered barista work. Is the McDonalds employee who makes and serves coffee from the pot a barista too? They might meet the dictionary definition, but I don’t think they would meet the expectations held by those who use the term.
- kuwze 8y agoWhat is wrong with saying that McDonalds has baristas?
- briandear 8y ago> making sure to sample the espresso throughout the day to check for over or under extraction, and adjusting the grind to compensate for changes in air pressure and temperature. Sounds like the perfect job for a computer. I highly doubt most baristas are checking atmospheric pressure or are even mindful of minute temperature charges throughout the day. Since these aspects are things that are monitor-able at high precision, it’s doubtful that your average barista is going to outperform a computer. The social aspects of the barista are a worthwhile, but unrelated debate.
- uhtred 8y agoSorry I didn't word it well. I'm not suggesting the baristas are contemplating the temperature and air pressure, but rather those things will affect an espresso shot and the level of extraction, and thus the barista will need to test the espresso throughout the day to determine if it is pulling differently (more/less extraction resulting in sour or bitter notes) in the afternoon compared to the morning due to weather changes. So I don't think it was unrelated debate.
- uhtred 8y agoBut please, do enlighten me as to whether a computer can determine if coffee tastes good.
- mc32 8y agoWhile there are some limits to what people consider good and or acceptable, a lot of taste is more of a consensus thing among people rather than something empirical. To use a pun, it’s up to people’s taste and that’s ill defined.
- cmroanirgo 8y agoExactly. And then there's the (albeit brief) interaction. Sometimes a barista is someone you get to know, who knows exactly what your order is, and begins preparing it as they see you walking down the street toward their shop. They are someone with whom you can have a strong acquaintance as you talk of small things. Sometimes these acquaintances become friendships... I would never go a cafe to see a robot press a button. If I only wanted coffee I'd get a nespresso or similar (which are never as good in my experience). Would a robot know to suggest you to occasionally try a different roast? Would a robot know to NOT suggest you try a different roast?
- saint_fiasco 8y agoLots of online services have recomendaron engines powered by some sort of AI. What makes coffee so different?
- singularity2001 8y agoTo me the fully automatic espresso machine IS already the barista.