>- It doesn't show new mail when it arrives That depends on the push function. If the server supports push then you get the mail when it arrives. Mobileme wo

>- It doesn't show new mail when it arrives That depends on the push function. If the server supports push then you get the mail when it arrives. Mobileme works out of the box, as does exchange. Sadly, if you want this to work with gmail you have to set up gmail as an exchange account. >- It doesn't do threaded conversations so they're compatible with the gmail web app Not sure what you mean, it doesn't do them the same way as the gmail app? I haven't looked at that but it does do them and it seems to work pretty well. >- Its address book autocomplete is not as good It works well for me, but maybe I don't have as many contacts. I only have about 90 or so. >- It stores messages locally so you can't search past mails It searches locally but there is a button at the end of the results called "search on server". Does this not do what you want? >- It does not hide the quoted text the same way gmail normally does, which sort of breaks that feature when you switch between mail.app and web based gmail. Yea, that's true. That's a killer feature of gmail. >Maybe I'll try it again since you love it so much. I don't love it, I just find it better than most clients I've used. I just asked because I was genuinely curious what was better because it must be pretty dramatic if it makes the decent iPhone mail app look so bad.