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> Im totally a fan of unions and Canadian health care. Never once did I say the USA health care system was what I favor. Nor did I decry unions. For a phd stude

> Im totally a fan of unions and Canadian health care. Never once did I say the USA health care system was what I favor. Nor did I decry unions. For a phd student your reading comprehension is quite poor. Sorry, I misread you, I was projecting onto you. I stand by my other claims. > I am simply describing what the Capitalism means because you say Capitalism but really you mean like a super mixed economy. You're not describing what Capitalism means, you're describing what you _think_ it means. When I say Capitalism I mean Capitalism, if I wanted to say Mixed Market economy I'd say Mixed Market economy. > Its sorta like the Communism. Vacuous. > If a communist country decides to have markets and private property to create incentives then it really cant be said to be communist anymore. Never disagreed with this. Not that Communism was mentioned. > Private property is antithetical to Communism True claim, the hint is in the name. > just as redistribution is antithetical to Capitalism. False claim. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/13/its-free-markets-that-reduce-inequality-not-capitalism-or-socialism/#3a3af7c66ec7 https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/13/its-free... And to reiterate, neither are unions antithetical to Capitalism. [1] https://www.vox.com/2014/9/1/6094051/three-sentences-no-one-should-forget-about-unions https://www.vox.com/2014/9/1/6094051/three-sentences-no-one-... [2] https://www.commdiginews.com/business-2/labor-day-are-unions-socialist-or-capitalist-48098/ https://www.commdiginews.com/business-2/labor-day-are-unions... --- If your entire argument hinges around the assertion that once an entirely 100% pure Capitalist system (market economy w/ attendant private property rights and share-holding and dividends and profit taking, the whole nine yards) has any tweaking whatsoever it stops being a Capitalist system … giving you what Forbes says “[a] social democratic version of a market economy” … then I don't know what to say … It's entirely correct to still classify a version of a market economy as a market economy. So long as the fundamentals and essentials are unchanged a thing remains itself, not to be trite but a blue house is still a house. To argue otherwise is unhelpful at best.

igravious 8y ago
> but a blue house is still a house. This was a bad analogy – a better one would be 'a houseboat is still a house (and a boat)' (two things coming together and still being identified with each rather than something modifying another thing) – in coding terms: multiple inheritance versus single inheritance plus an interface?
- petermcneeley 8y ago
  Multiple inheritance is evil :) Anyway I do think there is more going on here than a mere semantic disagreement about a word. However I dont think it can really be covered in a casual HN post. I would say I did find that one article quite amusing. "And Smith is right in that pretty much nowhere has ever managed to limb up out of peasant destitution without the use of a market economy and the associated price system. " The USSR used central planning (Gosplan) to manage their economy. They were the first space fairing nation on earth. What kind of author is this author to make these claims in direct contradiction to the historical record.

igravious 8y ago

> but a blue house is still a house. This was a bad analogy – a better one would be 'a houseboat is still a house (and a boat)' (two things coming together and still being identified with each rather than something modifying another thing) – in coding terms: multiple inheritance versus single inheritance plus an interface?

petermcneeley 8y ago
Multiple inheritance is evil :) Anyway I do think there is more going on here than a mere semantic disagreement about a word. However I dont think it can really be covered in a casual HN post. I would say I did find that one article quite amusing. "And Smith is right in that pretty much nowhere has ever managed to limb up out of peasant destitution without the use of a market economy and the associated price system. " The USSR used central planning (Gosplan) to manage their economy. They were the first space fairing nation on earth. What kind of author is this author to make these claims in direct contradiction to the historical record.