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This is the first time that I heard of ASMR. Verrrry Innnnteresting! I work in a similar field. Inducing weird feelings and related trippy stuff. I tend to the

This is the first time that I heard of ASMR. Verrrry Innnnteresting! I work in a similar field. Inducing weird feelings and related trippy stuff. I tend to the other end of the spectrum tho. Crass strobes. Full saturation. Lots of throbbing. https://vimeo.com/308956882 https://vimeo.com/308956882 If we can do drugs via digital audiovideoetc then.... a very important field of development is suggested.

opportune 8y ago
maybe it's because I've had a couple beers but I sat through the whole video and felt 0 effects after watching that
- swayvil 8y ago
  You need a high-quality copy, viewed projected large, with good speakers, to get the full effect. https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...
mmastrac 8y ago
That was... interesting. Not so much watching but the feeling when the video ended. Sort of like when you drive for a while and stop and everything seems to be moving backward.
- swayvil 8y ago
  You need to watch a high-quality copy to get the full effect https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?... View it projected large (like 6-10 feet tall). Use good speakers too.
RickS 8y ago
Could you talk more about the software that underpins this stuff? I saw in your comment that the audio is based of sampling of the visuals... is this written in Processing or something else? I used to make stuff like this with processing + arduino for inputs, with some fun results that are sadly lost to time.
- bravura 8y ago
  I am also curious about the audio generation.
  - swayvil 8y ago
    see my other reply for more on this. java has a nice low level audio generation tech where you just make a big integer array. I take a radial sample of this field of cells, convert it to audo.... ok, there is no science going on here. I just fucked with the code until it sounded good. Several magic numbers involved. See my github at fleen.org/generative-art for the actual code. The sound generation is only a few dozen lines.
- swayvil 8y ago
  It's all open source. See fleen.org for my github. The vibrating round thing. The "Whelmer". It's these randomly generated moving fuzzy rings. Moving in or out. Intersecting. The sound isn't so much gotten from a sampling of the visuals as a sampling of the same data that the visuals also sample. That data being a big array of integers, basically. To see it properly you really should download a high-quality video and watch it projected big (like 6' tall) with good speakers. Here's a nice one : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...
  - RickS 8y ago
    Thank you very much! I'll try and see if I can get my hands on a projector again. Generative art != glitch art, but these might be of interest to some people as well, since there was thread about a week ago on PNG glitching, and I went down a rabbithole saving links. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19075003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19075003 http://www.glitchet.com/resources http://www.glitchet.com/resources https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgpv3a/heres-what-happens-when-you-edit-photos-like-music https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgpv3a/heres-what-happens... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYytVzbPky8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYytVzbPky8
anonytrary 8y ago
The vimeo link above might need an epilepsy/seizure warning...
- swayvil 8y ago
  well it does say "ULTIMATE STROBE HAZARD"
w45yq3a 8y ago
Thanks for sharing, these are really lush. It seems like high-frequency visuals have a lot of latent potential; frequency oscillation has been widely explored with audio, but less so with visuals, even though our ability to rapidly interpret complex rhythmic patterns exists in both fields. There is perhaps a long history of related work you're familiar with, but I first came across this type of phenomena in an early film by Tony Conrad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5VryfCRig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5VryfCRig Have you experienced significant perceptual changes from viewing them for extended durations? Are there specific sequences / parameters you've found to be more powerful than others? If you don't mind sharing, I'm also curious to know what language you're using to write the software!
- swayvil 8y ago
  Key elements that I see are synchronizing the audio with the video. Video strobes correspond to audio strobes. Some kind of simple physical-metaphor sound and video logic. Like, bigger = lower, smaller= higher. Certain colors correspond to certain sounds. Simple stuff like that.Like cartoon logic. Total engrossment of the senses. Fill them up compltelely (thus "whelmer"). I see smell, tactile effects... stuff like that, being incorporated later. There is definitely some kind of trance thing happening. There is another tech at my site (fleen.org) called "clouded plain" that uses moving intersecting vibrating stripes. MUCH hallucinations off of that. Little kids like it very much. They just stand and stare. I wrote it in java. You really should download a hq copy and view it projected large (like 6-10 feet tall) with nice speakers. Here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...
- swayvil 8y ago
  The Tony Conrad is definitely the stuff. I'd love to see a hq version. Vimeo and Youtube really degrade it.

opportune 8y ago

maybe it's because I've had a couple beers but I sat through the whole video and felt 0 effects after watching that

swayvil 8y ago
You need a high-quality copy, viewed projected large, with good speakers, to get the full effect. https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...

mmastrac 8y ago

That was... interesting. Not so much watching but the feeling when the video ended. Sort of like when you drive for a while and stop and everything seems to be moving backward.

swayvil 8y ago
You need to watch a high-quality copy to get the full effect https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?... View it projected large (like 6-10 feet tall). Use good speakers too.

RickS 8y ago

Could you talk more about the software that underpins this stuff? I saw in your comment that the audio is based of sampling of the visuals... is this written in Processing or something else? I used to make stuff like this with processing + arduino for inputs, with some fun results that are sadly lost to time.

bravura 8y ago
I am also curious about the audio generation.
- swayvil 8y ago
  see my other reply for more on this. java has a nice low level audio generation tech where you just make a big integer array. I take a radial sample of this field of cells, convert it to audo.... ok, there is no science going on here. I just fucked with the code until it sounded good. Several magic numbers involved. See my github at fleen.org/generative-art for the actual code. The sound generation is only a few dozen lines.
swayvil 8y ago
It's all open source. See fleen.org for my github. The vibrating round thing. The "Whelmer". It's these randomly generated moving fuzzy rings. Moving in or out. Intersecting. The sound isn't so much gotten from a sampling of the visuals as a sampling of the same data that the visuals also sample. That data being a big array of integers, basically. To see it properly you really should download a high-quality video and watch it projected big (like 6' tall) with good speakers. Here's a nice one : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...
- RickS 8y ago
  Thank you very much! I'll try and see if I can get my hands on a projector again. Generative art != glitch art, but these might be of interest to some people as well, since there was thread about a week ago on PNG glitching, and I went down a rabbithole saving links. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19075003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19075003 http://www.glitchet.com/resources http://www.glitchet.com/resources https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgpv3a/heres-what-happens-when-you-edit-photos-like-music https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgpv3a/heres-what-happens... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYytVzbPky8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYytVzbPky8

anonytrary 8y ago

The vimeo link above might need an epilepsy/seizure warning...

swayvil 8y ago
well it does say "ULTIMATE STROBE HAZARD"

w45yq3a 8y ago

Thanks for sharing, these are really lush. It seems like high-frequency visuals have a lot of latent potential; frequency oscillation has been widely explored with audio, but less so with visuals, even though our ability to rapidly interpret complex rhythmic patterns exists in both fields. There is perhaps a long history of related work you're familiar with, but I first came across this type of phenomena in an early film by Tony Conrad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5VryfCRig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5VryfCRig Have you experienced significant perceptual changes from viewing them for extended durations? Are there specific sequences / parameters you've found to be more powerful than others? If you don't mind sharing, I'm also curious to know what language you're using to write the software!

swayvil 8y ago
Key elements that I see are synchronizing the audio with the video. Video strobes correspond to audio strobes. Some kind of simple physical-metaphor sound and video logic. Like, bigger = lower, smaller= higher. Certain colors correspond to certain sounds. Simple stuff like that.Like cartoon logic. Total engrossment of the senses. Fill them up compltelely (thus "whelmer"). I see smell, tactile effects... stuff like that, being incorporated later. There is definitely some kind of trance thing happening. There is another tech at my site (fleen.org) called "clouded plain" that uses moving intersecting vibrating stripes. MUCH hallucinations off of that. Little kids like it very much. They just stand and stare. I wrote it in java. You really should download a hq copy and view it projected large (like 6-10 feet tall) with nice speakers. Here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t9skr0ua4le5ma/whelmer46a_5m.mkv?...
swayvil 8y ago
The Tony Conrad is definitely the stuff. I'd love to see a hq version. Vimeo and Youtube really degrade it.