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We're all going to have to do something for the people at the actual bottom once we cater to the people racing to the bottom. The people that can't afford to l

We're all going to have to do something for the people at the actual bottom once we cater to the people racing to the bottom. The people that can't afford to live at the bottom of NYC also can't afford to move their families to Central African Republic and run the tshirt machines producing stuff they ship back where they came from. The USA already has a tax structure in place. Amazon could afford to pay the existing taxes if they wanted to. Heck, they're paying their tax accountants to figure out how not to pay those taxes. Why doesn't Amazon just buy, say, Nebraska, and set up shop there?

heyjudy 8y ago
UBI, livable wages, raise estate and corporate taxes, operable unions without "right to work" (for less) / union-busting laws, more worker-owned co-ops and integrated standard-of-living net that lifts instead of treating people like criminals. But first, getting rid of the corporate capture of both major political parties, elected officials, government and policy-making is a precondition to do anything to reverse the neoliberal, cannibalistic anarcho-capitalism inverted totalitarianism being forced on us.
- zanny 8y ago
  I would also like some flying pigs and entropy reversed with my order of complete fantasy. Im not saying its wrong, but us muggles worth less than countries have no real, meaningful say in the future at this, and to be fair also at most other, points in history.
  - door5 8y ago
    Alexandria Ocasio Cortez & Bernie Sanders openly espouse many of those ideas and are two of the most popular politicians in America. These ideas have a tremendous amount of traction and their advocates are getting closer to the centers of American power. This isn't a complete fantasy -- it's not an inevitably, but it is absolutely a viable part of political discourse & struggle
    - zanny 8y ago
      Even if one of them were elected president - which, again, faces staunch resistance by the olgiarch controlled DNC - a vast majority of congress is bought and paid for by globalist interests. The Occupy Wall Street movement was probably the last possible chance to correct course. Further attempts need to somehow capture a greater mindshare than the immediate aftermath of Bush's imperialism, wanton greed and corruption throughout the federal for thirty years across four presidents, the desolation of the working class, and the unabased billionaire wellfare that bailouts represented. We are now a decade later into corporate and wealth consolidation, a decade after Citizens United, another decade of corporate media brainwashing the "average" American into compliance and obedience. And this is a global conglomerate of business that will deter and influence all governments and societies to bow to their interests. The only way out at this point is an internal struggle between these private men and women of influence between those who have ethics and the interests of humanity at heart and the majority.
      - door5 8y ago
        This is extremely fatalistic. I agree that the system is severely flawed, but your conclusion that struggle for a better country is pointless is hopeless, and is not shared by a lot of the country. for many people, political struggle is necessary. This sort of fatalism is only really a tenable position when your livelihood is not at stake.
        karmelapple 8y ago
        Fully agreed. And if you don’t like the people in Congress, start volunteering for people you think are good. Or make yourself into one of those people. It’s not fast, it’s not easy, but it is possible. And fight for law changes that will help change - I would highly suggest advocating for ranked choice voting.

heyjudy 8y ago

UBI, livable wages, raise estate and corporate taxes, operable unions without "right to work" (for less) / union-busting laws, more worker-owned co-ops and integrated standard-of-living net that lifts instead of treating people like criminals. But first, getting rid of the corporate capture of both major political parties, elected officials, government and policy-making is a precondition to do anything to reverse the neoliberal, cannibalistic anarcho-capitalism inverted totalitarianism being forced on us.

zanny 8y ago
I would also like some flying pigs and entropy reversed with my order of complete fantasy. Im not saying its wrong, but us muggles worth less than countries have no real, meaningful say in the future at this, and to be fair also at most other, points in history.
- door5 8y ago
  Alexandria Ocasio Cortez & Bernie Sanders openly espouse many of those ideas and are two of the most popular politicians in America. These ideas have a tremendous amount of traction and their advocates are getting closer to the centers of American power. This isn't a complete fantasy -- it's not an inevitably, but it is absolutely a viable part of political discourse & struggle
  - zanny 8y ago
    Even if one of them were elected president - which, again, faces staunch resistance by the olgiarch controlled DNC - a vast majority of congress is bought and paid for by globalist interests. The Occupy Wall Street movement was probably the last possible chance to correct course. Further attempts need to somehow capture a greater mindshare than the immediate aftermath of Bush's imperialism, wanton greed and corruption throughout the federal for thirty years across four presidents, the desolation of the working class, and the unabased billionaire wellfare that bailouts represented. We are now a decade later into corporate and wealth consolidation, a decade after Citizens United, another decade of corporate media brainwashing the "average" American into compliance and obedience. And this is a global conglomerate of business that will deter and influence all governments and societies to bow to their interests. The only way out at this point is an internal struggle between these private men and women of influence between those who have ethics and the interests of humanity at heart and the majority.
    - door5 8y ago
      This is extremely fatalistic. I agree that the system is severely flawed, but your conclusion that struggle for a better country is pointless is hopeless, and is not shared by a lot of the country. for many people, political struggle is necessary. This sort of fatalism is only really a tenable position when your livelihood is not at stake.
      - karmelapple 8y ago
        Fully agreed. And if you don’t like the people in Congress, start volunteering for people you think are good. Or make yourself into one of those people. It’s not fast, it’s not easy, but it is possible. And fight for law changes that will help change - I would highly suggest advocating for ranked choice voting.