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Copyright law covers this easily: there is a creative step, being the content, in the result, so the result is copyrighted. Besides, even reading the work crea

Copyright law covers this easily: there is a creative step, being the content, in the result, so the result is copyrighted. Besides, even reading the work creates a copy in RAM and that copying act is forbidden unless the author allows it.

rolph 8y ago
the idea is not if copyright covers it the idea is the filter shouldnt be able to determine what it is. look at a very old school example : DEADBEEF becomes |)34|)13eeF That can be kluged out easily but in its time it was the way to circumvent text string filters. the creation step would not be in the server it would be on the users platform, after downloading. so the EU internet filter would not only have to look at uploads but would have to reach into a users machine and see what is in RAM or on the Hard drive. That isnt part of the article 13 text or the meme filter being proposed and i think that would be against GDPR
- hyperman1 8y ago
  The core problem isn't the filter. The problem is how a lot of data with copyright status 'unknown' will get swept into the category 'copyrighted' even if most of it probably isn't. Thinking about how to defeat the filter, while an interesting technical challenge, is irrelevant. No technological measure has made any dent in piracy. This was never a technology problem, it is a legal, social and moral one. Solving it with technology simply makes you a criminal, which like smoking pot will be ignored by the law until the law has a reason to look deeper into you. To wit, there is plenty of stuff today where the filter can't determine what it is. E.g. people playing old classical music, but some bigcorp has CDs with that same music. The problem is the filter errs on the side of blocking too much. This will also happen with the white noise if your scheme gets popular. Most of the last paragraph is incorrect, BTW. A creative step is always done by a human, never by a server, BTW. If the filter fails, the publisher of your video is on the hook for copyright infringement. The GDPR explicitly allows companies to gather data if there is a law requiring them to, so please don't open that can of worms - You don't want the Internet filter block access unless you install a browser plugin that scans your hard drive, for example.

rolph 8y ago

the idea is not if copyright covers it the idea is the filter shouldnt be able to determine what it is. look at a very old school example : DEADBEEF becomes |)34|)13eeF That can be kluged out easily but in its time it was the way to circumvent text string filters. the creation step would not be in the server it would be on the users platform, after downloading. so the EU internet filter would not only have to look at uploads but would have to reach into a users machine and see what is in RAM or on the Hard drive. That isnt part of the article 13 text or the meme filter being proposed and i think that would be against GDPR

hyperman1 8y ago
The core problem isn't the filter. The problem is how a lot of data with copyright status 'unknown' will get swept into the category 'copyrighted' even if most of it probably isn't. Thinking about how to defeat the filter, while an interesting technical challenge, is irrelevant. No technological measure has made any dent in piracy. This was never a technology problem, it is a legal, social and moral one. Solving it with technology simply makes you a criminal, which like smoking pot will be ignored by the law until the law has a reason to look deeper into you. To wit, there is plenty of stuff today where the filter can't determine what it is. E.g. people playing old classical music, but some bigcorp has CDs with that same music. The problem is the filter errs on the side of blocking too much. This will also happen with the white noise if your scheme gets popular. Most of the last paragraph is incorrect, BTW. A creative step is always done by a human, never by a server, BTW. If the filter fails, the publisher of your video is on the hook for copyright infringement. The GDPR explicitly allows companies to gather data if there is a law requiring them to, so please don't open that can of worms - You don't want the Internet filter block access unless you install a browser plugin that scans your hard drive, for example.