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As an NYC resident I'm glad my elected officials are "butt hurt" at not being involved in a political process that would affect the city in a large way. If they

by untog 8y ago

As an NYC resident I'm glad my elected officials are "butt hurt" at not being involved in a political process that would affect the city in a large way. If they weren't "butt hurt" they really shouldn't be in their jobs.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
NYC by virtue of political clout gets to meddle in all sorts of issues that affect upstate and warp them for it's own benefit. This time the state cut a deal that NYC wasn't in on and NYC didn't like it but at the end of the day it's still getting what it wants. Having self government on a local level but then getting constantly steamrolled by a state government that is dominated by some other city really sucks. NYC (and Boston, and Chicago, and a whole load of other cities that dominate their state government) should try it sometime. On one hand I'm annoyed that an opportunity for part of NYC to feel what that's like was missed by this > < much. On the other hand the deal that NYS cut with Amazon was a boondoggle load of crap that set a terrible precedent so I'm glad it's not happening.
- untog 8y ago
  I assure you, we know exactly what that is like when we watch things like MTA funds being reassigned to save upstate ski resorts. And gobs and gobs of money being spent on the East Side Access train tunnel, at the expense of our failing subway system. New York State has plenty of control over things that matter to the city, and doesn't hesitate to prioritize state concerns.
nerdb4itwascool 8y ago
I am also an NYC resident and followed this story closely. There was an immediate, knee-jerk reaction from local politicians when the announcement was made, often in the form of protests with plenty of photo ops. It was not about how to work with Amazon and the community to create something that works for everyone. Instead, their message was "WE DON'T WANT THIS, GET OUT NOW!" At the end of the day, this city needs to curb its reliance on finance jobs. Adding 25k tech workers would be a major step forward to making NY more of a tech hub than it is today. Kicking out Amazon sends a message to other large companies who are thinking about NYC -- buyer beware.
- fosco 8y ago
  as a New Yorker (1.5 hr drive from Manhattan) this makes me sad. while there is a low chance I would have worked there I was considering the potential reality of trying it out for a few months and see what their telework policy is (I am currently 99.5% remote) I was excited about this. I think NYC is losing out in the long run on development/income/more transactions of all kinds which in general is good for the economy.

by untog 8y ago

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

NYC by virtue of political clout gets to meddle in all sorts of issues that affect upstate and warp them for it's own benefit. This time the state cut a deal that NYC wasn't in on and NYC didn't like it but at the end of the day it's still getting what it wants. Having self government on a local level but then getting constantly steamrolled by a state government that is dominated by some other city really sucks. NYC (and Boston, and Chicago, and a whole load of other cities that dominate their state government) should try it sometime. On one hand I'm annoyed that an opportunity for part of NYC to feel what that's like was missed by this > < much. On the other hand the deal that NYS cut with Amazon was a boondoggle load of crap that set a terrible precedent so I'm glad it's not happening.

untog 8y ago
I assure you, we know exactly what that is like when we watch things like MTA funds being reassigned to save upstate ski resorts. And gobs and gobs of money being spent on the East Side Access train tunnel, at the expense of our failing subway system. New York State has plenty of control over things that matter to the city, and doesn't hesitate to prioritize state concerns.

nerdb4itwascool 8y ago

I am also an NYC resident and followed this story closely. There was an immediate, knee-jerk reaction from local politicians when the announcement was made, often in the form of protests with plenty of photo ops. It was not about how to work with Amazon and the community to create something that works for everyone. Instead, their message was "WE DON'T WANT THIS, GET OUT NOW!" At the end of the day, this city needs to curb its reliance on finance jobs. Adding 25k tech workers would be a major step forward to making NY more of a tech hub than it is today. Kicking out Amazon sends a message to other large companies who are thinking about NYC -- buyer beware.

fosco 8y ago
as a New Yorker (1.5 hr drive from Manhattan) this makes me sad. while there is a low chance I would have worked there I was considering the potential reality of trying it out for a few months and see what their telework policy is (I am currently 99.5% remote) I was excited about this. I think NYC is losing out in the long run on development/income/more transactions of all kinds which in general is good for the economy.