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A major issue is that California pays for its own stuff, but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well. A lot of other states get by with lower s

A major issue is that California pays for its own stuff, but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well. A lot of other states get by with lower state tax simply because they are net receivers of federal taxes which supplements stuff Californians pay for themselves.

panzagl 8y ago
It pays for stuff Californians rely on but can't stand the sight of.
- logfromblammo 8y ago
  Like the air and missile defense installations in Alaska that happen to be near all the great circle routes between Pyongyang, Beijing, or Kamchatka; and Seattle, Portland, or San Francisco.
skh 8y ago
This I think will end up becoming more of a complaint in the coming years. There will be a shift in the set of people who use “states rights” as a reason for policies. Increasingly states that subsidize places like Mississippi and Alabama are going to wonder about the role of the federal government. Ironically, I think those who are liberal ought to embrace the Republican talking point about limiting federal power and the federal government.
dkjshfajskdfa 8y ago
This argument is specious, it is more complicated then taxes in vs direct federal money release back. What is the net economic benefit of Federal Reserve Bank of New York to New York state considering all the money made by the primary dealers? For example.
castlecrasher2 8y ago
>but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well Strange this point is so frequently tossed around, despite it being false: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-federal-government-money-20170205-story.html https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-feder... "Lawmakers have long lamented that Californians pay more in taxes than they receive back in services, hanging their hats on a 2007 report by the conservative Tax Foundation that California is a "donor state" that receives only 78 cents in services for each dollar in taxes paid. But state analysts point out that report added extra tax dollars from Californians — beyond those actually paid — to cover the state's share of the federal deficit. Perhaps more accurate is a 2015 state-by-state review compiled by New York officials, one that puts California much closer to breaking even — about 99 cents in federal services for every real dollar in taxes."

panzagl 8y ago

It pays for stuff Californians rely on but can't stand the sight of.

logfromblammo 8y ago
Like the air and missile defense installations in Alaska that happen to be near all the great circle routes between Pyongyang, Beijing, or Kamchatka; and Seattle, Portland, or San Francisco.

skh 8y ago

This I think will end up becoming more of a complaint in the coming years. There will be a shift in the set of people who use “states rights” as a reason for policies. Increasingly states that subsidize places like Mississippi and Alabama are going to wonder about the role of the federal government. Ironically, I think those who are liberal ought to embrace the Republican talking point about limiting federal power and the federal government.

dkjshfajskdfa 8y ago

This argument is specious, it is more complicated then taxes in vs direct federal money release back. What is the net economic benefit of Federal Reserve Bank of New York to New York state considering all the money made by the primary dealers? For example.

castlecrasher2 8y ago

>but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well Strange this point is so frequently tossed around, despite it being false: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-federal-government-money-20170205-story.html https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-feder... "Lawmakers have long lamented that Californians pay more in taxes than they receive back in services, hanging their hats on a 2007 report by the conservative Tax Foundation that California is a "donor state" that receives only 78 cents in services for each dollar in taxes paid. But state analysts point out that report added extra tax dollars from Californians — beyond those actually paid — to cover the state's share of the federal deficit. Perhaps more accurate is a 2015 state-by-state review compiled by New York officials, one that puts California much closer to breaking even — about 99 cents in federal services for every real dollar in taxes."