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Yeah, the big fear here in Texas is that they're all going to move down here with their California liberal sensibilities and vote in a state income tax here, to

Yeah, the big fear here in Texas is that they're all going to move down here with their California liberal sensibilities and vote in a state income tax here, too.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
The only constant in the world is change.
sodosopa 8y ago
It’s becoming more purple instead of a red or a blue state, so it wouldn’t take much.
influx 8y ago
Likewise here in Washington state. All the Californians are fleeing here and implementing the exact same polices that drove them to leave. Odd.
- blakesterz 8y ago
  I lived in Seattle in 1993 and people were saying the same thing then. I know that sounds like a snarky throw away comment, but my point is just that people thought the same thing in 1993. I don't know if it's different now, could be.
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  - pochamago 8y ago
    Were they wrong? Hasn't Seattle shifted to be more like California over time, politically?
- mikestew 8y ago
  As a WA resident, I defy you to back that up. It’s the same shit I’ve heard for twenty years I’ve lived here: “it’s the Californians’ fault.” From bad driving to bad politics: it is your own damned fault, WA.
- sdinsn 8y ago
  > and implementing the exact same polices that drove them to leave Except they aren't.
mikestew 8y ago
Maybe you could walk me through the thought process of how a person fleeing an area for $REASON would then turn around and try to institute said $REASON in their new home. Because not a single Eastern European immigrant I knew in the 80s thought Communism was a good idea. So you’re either being facetious and I fell for it, or Texas could use a state income tax to bump up their public education game.
- AnimalMuppet 8y ago
  Imagine a continuum, with California at 0 and Texas at 100. You live in California, but you personally, are philosophically at 75. You leave California and move to Texas, because it's more your style. But when you get there, it's closer to what you want, but to you, it's too far the other direction. So you try (perhaps unconsciously) to move it partway toward California. The locals don't agree, and don't like you trying to do so. Note well: This does not mean that a state income tax idea would be a good idea or a bad one for Texas. It only means that it would be a foreign idea.
octonion 8y ago
Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world, so perhaps that would be a good thing.
- kthejoker2 8y ago
  False, thanks for not perpetuating misinformation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/11/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-was-unbelievably-high-now-we-know-why/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/1...
skh 8y ago
Do Conservative Texans fear the free market and people responding to market forces? Maybe Texas ought to raise state taxes as a means of persuading liberals from California to not move there.
- CompanionCuuube 8y ago
  If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
  - skh 8y ago
    Metaphorically speaking I have much more than a hammer and most things don't look like nails. But those who embrace free market forces should appreciate the proposed solution. Don't want certain types of people moving into your area? Then make it more expensive. It works remarkably well.
IvyMike 8y ago
There's some amount of evidence to the contrary; the group moving is self-selecting and trends conservative. One example: https://www.newsweek.com/more-native-born-texans-voted-beto-orourke-ted-cruz-exit-polls-indicate-1209296 https://www.newsweek.com/more-native-born-texans-voted-beto-...
throwawaymanbot 8y ago
Without federal taxes pouring in to Texas (replacing/funding things Texas wont and cant due to its tax collection ideeology) where would Texas be? Why should liberal dimes support hostile Texan ideology? Shouldn't Texas stand on its own 2 feet and stop milking the federal govt?

Yeah, the big fear here in Texas is that they're all going to move down here with their California liberal sensibilities and vote in a state income tax here, too.

toomuchtodo 8y ago

The only constant in the world is change.

sodosopa 8y ago

It’s becoming more purple instead of a red or a blue state, so it wouldn’t take much.

influx 8y ago

Likewise here in Washington state. All the Californians are fleeing here and implementing the exact same polices that drove them to leave. Odd.

blakesterz 8y ago
I lived in Seattle in 1993 and people were saying the same thing then. I know that sounds like a snarky throw away comment, but my point is just that people thought the same thing in 1993. I don't know if it's different now, could be.
- deleted 8y ago
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- pochamago 8y ago
  Were they wrong? Hasn't Seattle shifted to be more like California over time, politically?
mikestew 8y ago
As a WA resident, I defy you to back that up. It’s the same shit I’ve heard for twenty years I’ve lived here: “it’s the Californians’ fault.” From bad driving to bad politics: it is your own damned fault, WA.
sdinsn 8y ago
> and implementing the exact same polices that drove them to leave Except they aren't.

mikestew 8y ago

Maybe you could walk me through the thought process of how a person fleeing an area for $REASON would then turn around and try to institute said $REASON in their new home. Because not a single Eastern European immigrant I knew in the 80s thought Communism was a good idea. So you’re either being facetious and I fell for it, or Texas could use a state income tax to bump up their public education game.

AnimalMuppet 8y ago
Imagine a continuum, with California at 0 and Texas at 100. You live in California, but you personally, are philosophically at 75. You leave California and move to Texas, because it's more your style. But when you get there, it's closer to what you want, but to you, it's too far the other direction. So you try (perhaps unconsciously) to move it partway toward California. The locals don't agree, and don't like you trying to do so. Note well: This does not mean that a state income tax idea would be a good idea or a bad one for Texas. It only means that it would be a foreign idea.

octonion 8y ago

Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world, so perhaps that would be a good thing.

kthejoker2 8y ago
False, thanks for not perpetuating misinformation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/11/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-was-unbelievably-high-now-we-know-why/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/1...

skh 8y ago

Do Conservative Texans fear the free market and people responding to market forces? Maybe Texas ought to raise state taxes as a means of persuading liberals from California to not move there.

CompanionCuuube 8y ago
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
- skh 8y ago
  Metaphorically speaking I have much more than a hammer and most things don't look like nails. But those who embrace free market forces should appreciate the proposed solution. Don't want certain types of people moving into your area? Then make it more expensive. It works remarkably well.

IvyMike 8y ago

There's some amount of evidence to the contrary; the group moving is self-selecting and trends conservative. One example: https://www.newsweek.com/more-native-born-texans-voted-beto-orourke-ted-cruz-exit-polls-indicate-1209296 https://www.newsweek.com/more-native-born-texans-voted-beto-...

throwawaymanbot 8y ago

Without federal taxes pouring in to Texas (replacing/funding things Texas wont and cant due to its tax collection ideeology) where would Texas be? Why should liberal dimes support hostile Texan ideology? Shouldn't Texas stand on its own 2 feet and stop milking the federal govt?